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[Arnold]

värske http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story ... 93,00.html
Lugege ka kommentaare ja mitme kirjaoskusega inimesed võiksid ka lisada oma seisukohti! Hea oleks näiteks refereerida Euroopa Inimõiguste Kohtu otsust, mida ma siin portaalis ajalehest "Sirp"vahendasin.

[Juhan]

algus oli paljutõotav, ent neid kommentaare on tohutul hulgal.
Kuni selle kohani:

The Balts who were sentenced to Siberia were not innocent bystanders. They were fascists, many of whom had volunteered to join the Waffen-SS. The present rulers of the Baltics are their direct descendants, which explains why they are supported by the NATO countries.

Please spare us the blather about the crimes of Joseph Stalin. The capitalist system has killed well over 700 million people world-wide since 1914, through war, starvation, poverty and pestilence. For example, the UN reports that over 10 million children age 5 or under have died annually in capitalist-dominated countries since 1990. Who cares?

Anyone who supports the barbarous system known as capitalism is disqualified from further discussion of human misery or human welfare.

Siit edasi loobusin:
1) Silmad juba väsinud ekraani jõllitamisest
2) Las lollid lõugavad

[Noor]

Lugesin kommentaarid lõpuni. Pea hakkas valutama, lähen teen ühe suitsu...

[Arnold]

Lõpp on hea!

Lydia1

March 7, 2007 6:23 AM

This is really funny. The Soviet Union in collusion with Nazi Germany (The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 1939) starts World War II. They divvy up Poland while the Soviet Union takes over the Baltic countries. Then Nazi Germany attacks the Soviet Union and the innocent, peaceful Baltic countries are made into killing fields of the two battling superpowers. The West joins forces with the Soviet Union and in a war fought on two frontiers, Nazi Germany is vanquished. The Baltic countries, however, do not regain their pre-war independence for 50 years until the Soviet Union finally collapses under its own weight. Now, according to Russia, the Estonians are Nazis because they do not like monuments dedicated to Stalin!

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econman

March 7, 2007 6:39 AM

Lydia, try now to close the Estonian history text book and read something more intellectual. It's not reall good for your brains which are already messed up enough.

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mannic

March 7, 2007 8:20 AM

"Lydia, try now to close the Estonian history text book and read something more intellectual. It's not reall good for your brains which are already messed up enough."

Then what should she read? Some Soviet "history" books perhaps? Or maybe something else? Here's my personal favourite...

European Court of Human Rights:
The Court notes, first, that Estonia lost its independence as a result of the Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (also known as “Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact”), concluded on 23 August 1939, and the secret additional protocols to it. Following an ultimatum to set up Soviet military bases in Estonia in 1939, a large-scale entry of the Soviet army into Estonia took place in June 1940. The lawful government of the country was overthrown and Soviet rule was imposed by force. The totalitarian communist regime of the Soviet Union conducted large-scale and systematic actions against the Estonian population, including, for example, the deportation of about 10,000 persons on 14 June 1941 and of more than 20,000 on 25 March 1949. After the Second World War, tens of thousands of persons went into hiding in the forests to avoid repression by the Soviet authorities; part of those in hiding actively resisted the occupation regime. According to the data of the security organs, about 1,500 persons were killed and almost 10,000 arrested in the course of the resistance movement of 1944-1953.
Interrupted by the German occupation in 1941-1944, Estonia remained occupied by the Soviet Union until its restoration of independence in 1991. Accordingly, Estonia as a state was temporarily prevented from fulfilling its international commitments...

[Martään]

Mul on hea meel, et oleme pea liiva alt välja tõmmanud.
Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story ... 37,00.html

[krizz]

Järjekordne näide Eesti propaganda hambutusest (puudumisest). Ehk oleks aeg tõesti Propagandaministeeriumi loomise peale mõelda. Nende lollitatud inimeste armee Euroopas tundub aina kasvavat, kes ajaloolist tõtt ei tea, kuid omavad illusioone Stalini & kommunismi ees.
Näiteks Venemaal Kaliningradis kisti taas võimude poolt Iisamaasõja monument maha...Sellised asjad tuleks suure kella külge panna. Meie riigimehed võiks seda tehe, kui välismaal käivad. Eesti ajalehtedes sellest kirjutamine on küll tore, kuid kaugemale see ei levi.
Venelased on aga tõesti hea nime leidnud- natsid/fašistid. Lääne Euroopas see töötab. Kui inimene on veel pinnapealne ka, ongi nende sõnade töö tehtud... Samas punafašism on veelgi verisem. Aga kes seda teab?

[hillart]

Selline ametkond, nagu Propagandaamet, eksisteeris EW ajal.
Igal tôsiseltvôetaval riigil on midagi sellist olemas. Ainult praegusel EV-l mitte!!!
Nimetatakse seda ametkond muidugi erinevates riikides erinevalt, kuid vastavad ülesanded on samad.
Soovitan soojalt lugeda - "Moraal ja sôda." Trükitud küll väga-väga ammu (vist oli 1925), kuid, kui välja arvata kohati arhailine kirjaviis, siis - igati tänapäevane (isegi, vaata et - nagu rusikas silmaauku).
Sellele lisaks oleks väga soodne lugeda samast ajast pärit raamatukest "Distsipliin" (käsiraamat kompanii-, eskadroni- ja patareiülematele).

Kunagi kümmekod aastat tagsi üritati selliste ülesannetega ametkonda ellu kutsuda, kuid kahjuks edutult, sest meie hüper-super-mega liberaalses ja -demokraatlikus ühiskonnas (EV-s) polevat see vôimalik ja see olevat lausa kuritegelik.
Vastavate ülesannetega ametkonna puudumise tulemina olemegi siis olukorras, millist me igapäevaselt näeme - ebalojaalsed tavakodanikud, ebalojaalsed kaitseväelased, isamaalisuse pôlastamine, eesti keele allakäik kohati isegi kuni köögikeele tasemele, jne., jne.

Üks pisuke lisainformatsioon lugemiseks (kui huvitab muidugi):
http://www.rahvuslikliikumine.ee/foorum ... .php?t=363

P.S. See pole partei propaganda!!! Lihtsalt lugemiseks, et ka mujalpool môned omavad selles liinis oma arvamusi.