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Vene VDV saab üksuseid juurde. Omaette küsimus saab olema selle mehitamine.
Colonel-General Andrei Serdyukov, said that the VDV is set for a structural shake-up. It will go from 4 divisions and 5 independent brigades to 5 divisions, 4 independent air-assault brigades, an artillery brigade, and other support units.
Currently, those 5 independent brigades include 4 air assault brigades (11th, 31st, 56th, and 83rd) and the 45th Independent Spetsnaz Brigade, so it's not clear what where the 45th will go (it is located next to the SSO Kubinka-2 unit).

Given that the VDV will still retain all 4 of those air assault brigades, this means the VDV will receive essentially an entirely new division not formed from existing regiments/brigades. In 2015, General Shamanov said the VDV's #'s would go from 45k to 60k.

This also entailed the 76th and 7th Guards Air Assault Divisions receiving a third regiment, which were taken away in 2001. The 76th reestablished its 3rd regiment, the 237th Regiment, in December and the 7th's Div's 97th Airborne Assault Regiment.

Serdyukov said during an interview last year that the VDV's numbers had increased by 48% since 2012. He also said the VDV's share of modern equipment has reached 67.9% and will be 72.1% by 2020 (it was 18% in 2012). The VDV will receive 300 pieces of equipment in 2019.

Including 90 BMD-4M/BTR-MDM. He said that every VDV unit would have a UAV detachment by the end of 2019 (there are currently 6 UAV companies and 2 platoons). The VDV will also receive Bakhcha-U-PDS parachutes designed for dropping BMDs with their crews inside.

He said future VDV procurement would emphasize:
-Increasing the mobility and autonomy of the VDV in difficult terrain/climates,
-Improving the VDV's ability to be transported over long distances,
-Improving the VDV's ability to operate jointly with other forces,
-Improving the VDV's C2 functions,
-Procuring more precision-guided munitions and weapons.
Serdyukov also mentioned the experimental air assault unit with army aviation set up in 2018 and tested during Vostok-2018.

The experimental unit was based around the 31st Independent Air Assault Brigade with 2 Mi-8 squadrons, 2 Mi-26 squadrons, and attack helicopter squadrons attached. VDV experience in Afghanistan showed that helos needed to be organic assets.

Serdyukov said testing is continuing, but Alexey Ramm previously reported that the VDV is set to receive an army aviation brigade with 4 helicopter squadrons, which will be based in either Voronezh, Ryazan, or Orenburg.

The brigade will have 48-50 helicopters including Mi-8AMTSh-V, Mi-26T2, and Mi-35M (though apparently no Ka-52/Mi-28). It is expected to be established in 2020-2021. As Ramm reported, the VDV is moving away from mass parachute assaults in the enemy's rear.

And becoming a "global strike force" capable of being rapidly deployed across the world and capable of holding territory. The VDV was previously designed for use in a large conventional conflict. As a result, VDV units are receiving more Rys, Tigr, and Typhoon-VDV vehicles.

As opposed to just being based on BMDs. The VDV has also begun reestablishing organic tank units, which makes it capable of achieving more missions by itself. France's operation in Mali in 2013 was specifically sited as an example of a successful expeditionary operation.

Russian Spetsnaz are rapidly deployable, as seen in Crimea, but they lack the heavier assets for many missions. Expanding the VDV's capabilities would give Russia a more effective rapid response force with helicopter, AD, EW, UAV, and logistics capabilities and spetsnaz.

It is surprising these changes hadn't occurred previously. But there is still a question of where these new servicemen will come from to plus up the VDV to 60k or greater. The MoD's #'s haven't increased, and the # of contract soldiers has plateaued at 384k since 2016.

So increasing the size of the VDV will likely come at the expense of the ground forces. Lastly, it will be interesting to see what happens to the 45th Spetsnaz Brigade given that Serdyukov didn't mention it. I doubt the VDV would want to lose it.

But the SSO currently lacks supporting SOF units, like the 75th Ranger Regiment or the UK's Special Forces Support Group. Given that the 45th previously performed some of the SSO' missions and its location, it might be the ideal supporting asset for SSO.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1099034925255282688
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Vene sõjateaduste doktor, esimese järgi kapten Konstantin Sivkov: „Ma ei pea tõenäoliseks hüperhelikiirusega rakettide Tsirkon välja laskmist Vene laevadelt otsuste vastuvõtmise keskuste hävitamiseks. Laevad ei saa läheneda USA rannikule 500-1000 kilomeetri kaugusele ning Tsirkon on mõeldud laevade gruppide tabamiseks.“
Vene telekanal Rossija 1: „Vene rakettide Tsirkon sihtmärkideks võivad ohu korral Moskvale saada USA viis sõjalist keskust. Löök võidakse anda kolmele keskusele idarannikul: Pentagoni hoonele Washingtonis ning valitsuse juhtimiskeskustele Camp Davidile ja Fort Ritchiele Marylandi osariigis.“
Kremli pressiesindaja Dmitri Peskov: „Tuletan meelde Putini pöördumist Föderaalkogu poole, milles ta rääkis peegelvastusest raketiohule. Täpsemalt ütles Putin, et Vene pool võib sihtida raketid mitte ainult stardiseadeldistele, vaid ka sinna, kus tehakse rakettide väljalaskmise otsused. Palun pöörata tähelepanu sellele, et president ei nimetanud sellega seoses ühtki geograafilist punkti.“
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Venemaa alustas vähemalt 20 000 mehelise grupeeringu lahinguvalmiduse kontrolli UKR piiri ääres Lõuna SVR-is. Lisaks kõvasti lennuväge Lääne-, Kesk ja Lõuna SVR-idest.
Russian Southern Military District holding large-scale combat exercises over next month involving about 20,000 troops of more than 40 battalion tactical groups at SMD ranges from occupied Crimea to the Caspian
https://twitter.com/GorseFires/status/1 ... 7004145666
All #Russian combat exercises in the Southern Military District will be held as readiness checks and troops will deploy in combat form.

When some training grounds are just 20km away from the Ukrainian border, this is rather provocative.
https://twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1100270599660883969
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2019 aastal luuakse juurde uusi üksuseid.
Shoigu spoke about the new units of the Russian Armed Forces in the west of the country: Troops will be reinforced by four new regiments and one division in 2019

According to the defense minister, an anti-aircraft missile regiment of a mobile reserve, a tank regiment and a coastal missile division in the Baltic Fleet will be formed in the Western Military District, as well as two regiments in the 20th Army.
https://twitter.com/GorseFires/status/1 ... 3219409920
https://twitter.com/RUSexercises/status ... 8836932608
https://twitter.com/GorseFires/status/1 ... 7279197185
https://twitter.com/RUSexercises/status ... 3979206656
https://twitter.com/RUSexercises/status ... 9519812608
https://twitter.com/RUSexercises/status ... 0081789952
https://twitter.com/RUSexercises/status ... 6288539649
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ruger kirjutas:2019 aastal luuakse juurde uusi üksuseid.
Shoigu spoke about the new units of the Russian Armed Forces in the west of the country: Troops will be reinforced by four new regiments and one division in 2019
According to the defense minister, an anti-aircraft missile regiment of a mobile reserve, a tank regiment and a coastal missile division in the Baltic Fleet will be formed in the Western Military District, as well as two regiments in the 20th Army.
...
Üks paljudest viimaste aastate samalaadsetest uudistest. Praeguseks peaks riigi üksuste arv olema kolmandiku võrra suurem kui 2014?
Tehnika pole probleem, sest ladudest saab veel miskit võtta ja üles vuntsida, kuid rahvaarvu (ja just teenistuseks kõlbulike arvu!) kasvu pole täheldanud. Pluss meeste voolamine "koka klubiga" Süüriasse suppi keetma.

Ega siin loogiliselt olegi rohkem kui kaks võimalust - kas üksused on paberil (mobiliseeritavad) või on tehtud väiksemaks (näiteks kaks pataljoni jagatud kolmeks). :dont_know:

PS. Neid pidevalt juurde tulevate üksuste probleeme on siin vist igal aastal lahatud?
Paljude raamatute lugemine teeb inimese palju lugenud isikuks, kuid ei pruugi teha teda targaks...
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Shoigu kõne
During a Defense Ministry Board Session, Sergei Shoigu gave a number of useful facts. The share of modern equipment has reached:
-Western Military District (ZVO): 54%
-Southern Military District (YuVO): 60%
-Eastern Military District (VVO): 51%
The # of pieces of new and modernized armaments and special hardware that will be delivered in 2019:
-Western Military District (ZVO): "up to" 1,272
-Southern Military District (YuVO): "more than" 1,200
-Eastern Military District (VVO): "up to" 1,744
# of "organizational measures" (i.e. new or modified units) to be implemented in 2019:
-Western Military District (ZVO): 142
-Southern Military District (YuVO): 30
-Eastern Military District (VVO): 56
In the ZVO, he said the MoD is setting up an air defense missile regiment, a tank regiment (the 11th Independent Tank Regiment was established last month), two regiments in the 20th Army, a district technical missile base, a coastal missile division in the Baltic Fleet"

And "maintaining combat readiness and combat capability of 23 battalion task groups." The YuVO's changes include, "the formation of a missile brigade, two regiments, a missile battalion of the Ball coastal missile complex, and the Mobilization Deployment Support Center."
The Southern Military District is implementing "30 main organizational measures" "including the formation of a missile brigade, two regiments, a missile battalion of the Ball coastal missile complex, and the Mobilization Deployment Support Center."

The YuVO's share of modern equipment will reach 66% by the end of 2019. "y the end of the year, 26 battalion tactical groups will join the district (Eastern Military District) troops." For some reason, he never mentioned the Central Military District.

The VVO will form a "mixed aviation division, an anti-aircraft missile brigade (the effectiveness of air defence in the Amur-Sakhalin direction will increase by 15%), engineering regiment, Bastion coastal missile defence.

The global situation "is characterized by increased competition between global power centers, increased uncertainty factors, bursts of instability and violence in different regions of the planet, and an increase in conflict potential in areas of Russia's traditional interests.”

“the US is seeking to retain the positions of the superpower, manipulate international law, persistently seek to change the existing conventional arms control regime in Europe in its favor, and also make it difficult for Russia to use its rights under the Treaty on Open Skies.”

He continued, "the scale and intensity of the (NATO) exercises has doubled, in which Ukraine and Georgia, which are not members of NATO, are becoming increasingly involved. Such actions wreck the existing security system in the world."

He then said, “in such a situation, we are forced to respond adequately, combining strategic deterrence measures with a planned increase in the combat capabilities of the formations and military units."
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1101579715427688449
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count ... 246@egNews
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Vene sideväelased lõid turvalise sidevõrgu üksuste jaoks ka Lääne-SVR-is Leningradi oblastis. Tähelepanu äratab see uudis, kuna analoogse ca 1000km sidevõrgu ehitasid sideväelased ka Lõuna-SVR-i Ukraina piiri äärde.
Western Military District Liaison has established secure communication channels in Leningrad region
https://twitter.com/russiamilitaryw/sta ... 4582270976
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count ... 758@egNews

Leningradi oblastis suured suurtükiväeõppused
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count ... 755@egNews

Lõuna SVR-is algasid suured õhutõrjeõppused
Более 3,5 тыс. военнослужащих зенитных подразделений Южного военного округа (ЮВО) приступили к проведению масштабного полевого выхода подразделений войск противовоздушной обороны (ПВО). Мероприятия боевой подготовки пройдут на 30 полигонах, расположенных на территориях Ростовской, Волгоградской и Астраханской областей, Ставропольского и Краснодарского краёв, Крыму, республик Северного Кавказа: Ингушетии, Дагестане, Чечне, Северной Осетии и Адыгеи.

В практических мероприятиях задействованы расчеты зенитно-ракетных комплексов (ЗРК) ПВО, в частности зенитных пушечно-ракетных комплексов «Тунгуска», зенитных артиллерийских комплексов ЗСУ-23-4 «Шилка», ЗРК С-400 «Триумф», «Тор-М», «Бук-М3», «Оса», а также «Стрела-10М».
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count ... 765@egNews

Lisaks Shoigule esines ka Gerassimov.
Russian General Staff conference on military strategy told about the development of US strategy of using colour revolutions as weapons: Russia is ready to resist this, Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov said.
Gerasimov said the Pentagon began to develop a new "Trojan Horse" warfare strategy, the essence being to actively use protest potential of "fifth column" to destabilize the situation while simultaneously striking with high-precision weapons (HPW) the most important targets.

"I would like to note that the Russian Federation is ready to prevent any of these strategies. In recent years, military scientists, together with the General Staff, have developed conceptual approaches to neutralize the aggressive actions of potential opponents"

According to Gerasimov, the basis of Russia's response is an "active defense strategy" which, taking into account the defensive nature of the Russian military doctrine, provides for a set of measures to anticipate neutralizing threats to the security of the state.

"We must be ahead of the enemy in the development of military strategy, go one step ahead," the chief of the General Staff added. "The U.S. and its allies have determined the aggressive vector of their foreign policy. They are working on offensive military actions, ..."

"... such as "global strike", "multi-sphere battle" using the technology of "colour revolutions" and "soft power". Their goal is to eliminate the statehood of undesirable states, undermining sovereignty, changing the legally elected government bodies".
https://twitter.com/GorseFires/status/1 ... 7042919424
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6178016
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content ... 3-5ngl.htm
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Helikopter Mi-28...
Самый интересный комментарий относительно проблем Ми-28Н дал в 2017 году экс-главком ВКС Виктор Бондарев. «Электроника провальная: ничего летчик не видит, ничего летчик не слышит. Эти очки, которые надевают, они называют "смерть пилотам". Небо безоблачное — все нормально, а если какая дымочка — три дня с красными глазами ходят», — заявил тогда государственный деятель.
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Kaliningradi paigutati juurde veel üks polk S-400 komplekse.
Additional S-400 regiment has been deployed at Kaliningrad region of Russia
https://baltics.liveuamap.com/en/2019/4 ... aliningrad
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6182819
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Vene fregatt tegi Shotimaa rannikul Invernessi lähedal õhukaitse ja šabotaažiõppuseid... Halloo.... kas paremat kohta selliseks provotseerimiseks ei ole leida? Seda siis veel 1 aasta peale Skripali mürgitamist. Sellised otsused tehakse ikka väga kõrgel.
So what was the Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov doing yesterday in the Moray Firth off Inverness (Scotland)? It conducted air defence and counter-sabotage exercises. Pretty provocative, I'd say... Next stop: the Channel
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https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/1102972599494164482
Сегодня отряд кораблей и судов обеспечения Северного флота в составе фрегата «Адмирал Флота Советского Союза Горшков», многофункционального судна материально-технического обеспечения «Эльбрус», спасательного буксира «Николай Чикер» и среднего морского танкера «Кама» приступил к проходу пролива Ла-Манш. Перед выходом из Северного моря на фрегате и судах была проведена тренировка по связи и определён порядок следования в походном ордере через узкости.

Ранее отряд действовал в заливе Мори Ферт, отрабатывая задачи по противодиверсионной обороне при стоянке на незащищённом рейде и противовоздушной обороне с выполнением слежения за воздушными целями радиотехническими средствами.

Отряд вышел в дальний поход из главной базы Северного флота – Североморска 26 февраля. В настоящее время североморцы прошли более 1600 морских миль и провели несколько корабельных боевых учений, в том числе по поиску подводных лодок.

Для экипажа фрегата «Адмирал Флота Советского Союза Горшков» этот поход первый в его истории.
https://www.mvestnik.ru/newslent/fregat ... -la-mansh/

Kõige pikantsemaks teeb asja see, et õppused toimusid RAF Lossiemouthi lennuvälja nina all sisuliselt.
It should worry everyone that Russian naval vessels were able to carry out air defence and counter sabotage exercises in the Moray Firth - just north of RAF Lossiemouth. That they got so close to Scotland’s coastline is a failure of UK defence policy.
https://twitter.com/StewartMcDonald/sta ... 1754524672
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Sveitsi reservohvitseride ülevaade Vene armee arengutest
https://www.offiziere.ch/?p=35498

Vene VDV tankiüksused harjutavad Krasnodari lähedal
https://youtu.be/n64rIJFTS64

VDV kopteriüksuste ülesehitusest
Also notable is that the VDV's new army aviation brigade that will be established in the next couple of years is slated to have Mi-8AMTSh, Mi-26T2, and Mi-35M helicopters but not Ka-52 or Mi-28 (the Mi-35M can also carry 7 soldiers).
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Vene armee arengutest Shoigu järjekordse esinemise järgi Vene riigiduuma kaitsekomitee ees.
Sergei Shoigu spoke to the Duma's Defense Committee today. He was apparently scheduled to speak for an hour, but his talk lasted for more than two hours. He said Russia has conducted 166 sea and air-launched cruise missile strikes in Syria.

He said that in 2019 the MoD's number of high-precision cruise missiles has increased 30 times and the number of ground, sea, and air platforms capable of launching long range PGMs has increased 12 times. Presumably, this period was from 2012-2019.

Shoigu touted the Su-24M's upgraded SVP-24 targeting system that allows dumb bombs to be dropped within 10 meters of it target. Su-24M and Su-25SM3's with their SVP-24-25 targeting systems played a much greater role in Russia's air campaign in Syria than cruise missiles.

He also lauded the role of the Strelets recon and C3 system (KRUS), which allows Russian forces to strike targets within "8-12 minutes" of their detection. Thanks to its Syrian experience, Russian Helicopters developed a missile with a range of 15km (presumably the Vikhr-1).

In total, Russia tested 316 modern weapon samples in Syria. Since 2012, Russia has built 475 military infrastructure facilities for a total of 710k square meters in the arctic on Cape Schmidt and the islands of Kotelny, Wrangel, and Alexandra Land.

He said the # of servicemen serving under contract has reached 394k. Although this is a substantial increase from 2012, the # has plateaued since 2016 (when it was 384k). Previously, it was planned to reach 499k by 2020, which obviously won't happen.

From 2012-2018 the MoD received:
-109 Yars ICBM
-108 SLBM
-3 Borei boomers
-57 spacecraft/satellites
-7 submarines
-17 Bal and Bastion complexes
-3,712 tanks and armored vehicles
-More than 1k helos and aircraft
-161 surface ships, cutters, boats.

The MoD rearmed:
-12 Yars missile regiments
-10 Iskander missile brigades
-13 aviation regiments with MiG-31BM, Su-35S, Su-30SM, and Su-34
-3 army aviation brigades and 6 helicopter regiments with Ka-52 and Mi-28
-20 S-400 regiments
-23 Pantsir-S Bn
-17 Bastion/Bal Bn.
He said that, since 2012, 38 UAV units have been formed, equipped with over 2k UAVs. The MoD recently released a graphic saying that it had formed 40 UAV units (possibly 41 now) and received 2,136 UAVs. He said the MoD would receive MALE UAVs this year.

He also touted the benefits of the reestablished Voenpred system (Военное представительство) of military representatives at OPK enterprises to ensure the quality of weapons built under the GOZ. He said Voenpreds have reduced the # of faulty systems by 2.7 times.

I skipped right over this, but he also announced that Russia has 136 constant readiness battalion tactical groups manned by contract servicemen. In September, Gerasimov said the Russian military had 126 BTGs with contract servicemen.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1105176901470031872
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Soome lahel toimuvad analooge mitteomava, igasuguseid kaameraid ja sihtimissüsteeme kuni 2km kauguseni pimestava prožektori ehk kompleksi «Филин» katsetused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvve06_ffM
ruger kirjutas: 2019 aastal luuakse juurde uusi üksuseid.
Sama vene keeles....
Lääne SVR-i tugevdatakse 2019 aastal nelja polgu ja ühe divisjoniga.
1 mobiilse reservi seniitraketiväe polk; 1 tankipolk ja 1 ranna raketidivisjon Balti laevastiku kooseisus; 2 polku 20.armee kooseisus.
Войска на западе РФ в 2019 году укрепят четырьмя полками и одним дивизионом
https://www.dp.ru/a/2019/02/27/Vojska_n ... yandex.com

Šoigu teatas, et armeele teenuste lepingutega sisseostmine ei tasunud (õigustanud) ennast ära.
Аутсорсинг в армии себя не оправдал, заявил Шойгу
https://ria.ru/20190311/1551688750.html

Sertifitseeriti VF uus opsüsteem "Bagr OS" militaarkasutusse, mis peab tagama andmete kaitstuse tasemel "täiesti salajane"
Министерство обороны РФ сертифицировало новейшую операционную систему реального времени «БагрОС-4000» для многоядерных процессоров, разработанную ПАО «Компания «Сухой»
https://www.sukhoi.org/press/news/minis ... ros-4.html

Pilt
https://www.qrz.ru/news/15534.html

VF arendas-leiutas uuttüüpi cal 12,7mm soomustläbistava süütemoona (mis võimaldab süüdata raskekütuseid) ja projekt «Ратник» raames töötati välja uut parema läbistavusega ja parema tabavustihedusega 5,45 moona
В России создали новые виды патронов
https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/6069 ... 9RFIGzYpIo

Keegi spets kommenteerib ühes VF sõjandusfoorumis seda 5,45 moona:
Это 7Н39 и 7Н40. Первый еще в 14м был у кое-кого.... ну, кое-где. И там еще потом долго жаловались с той стороны. Подхрюкивали(с)Государь
Это который бронебойный. Одновременно в той же теме был создан 7Н37 под легендарный патрон с закраиной. Под 7.62х39 давно уже никто ничего не создает такого.
Второй - улучшенной кучности, он чуть позже появился. Все по ним есть в Сети. Лучше у Попенкера на сайте или в ЖиЖе, там, вроде, вполне подробно. По Аверсу индекс называть не буду, в Сети пока не светился, или я не видел, так что воздержусь.
VF merevägi võtab Vaikse ookeani-, Põhjamere- ja Musta mere laevastikes kasutusele kolm uut "Bastion" ("Бастион") raketikomplekside divisjoni, koos rakettidega "Oniks" ("Оникс")
ВМФ России примет на вооружение три дивизиона ракетных комплексов "Бастион"
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/652805

VF uuest granaadiheitjast АГС-40 «Балкан» artikkel
Боевая адаптация: гранатомет «Балкан» подготовят для новых условий войны
https://politexpert.net/143036-boevaya- ... yandex.com

VF Arktika SOF ehk ССО (Силы специальных операций) в Арктике Siberis paikneva üksuse promovideo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnBISkFPDS4

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Üks selline avarii ka siis
«КамАЗ» с ракетно-пушечной системой «Панцирь-С» опрокинулся во Владивостоке

Pilt
https://www.rbc.ru/society/11/03/2019/5 ... =from_main
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