Liibüa kodusõda alates 2011

[Zill154]

Prantsusmaa president Nicolas Sarkozy kinnitas, et riigi lennukid teevad Liibüa õhuruumis luurelende selleks, et Benghazi linna valitsusmeelsete vägede rünnaku eest kaitsta.
REKLAAM

Tegemist on esimese välisriikide poolse sekkumisega Liibüas toimuvasse pärast neljapäeva, mil ÜRO selle kohal lennukeelu kehtestas, vahendab BBC News.

«Meie õhujõud astuvad igasuguse agressiooni vastu,» lubas Sarkozy. Tema sõnul sekkub rahvusvaheline avalikkus Liibüa sündmustesse, et peatada diktaator Muammar Gaddafi «verejanulist hullumeelsust».

Päris huvitav artikkel, kui arvestada kust tuleb suur osa Prantsusmaa kütusest!

[Zill154]

CNN teatel avasid Prantsuse hävitajad (rafal) tule Liibüa tanki pihta mis ründas mässuliste tugipunkti!

[kaur3]

The initial French air sorties, which were not coordinated with other countries, began before the Paris summit meeting ended, which angered some of the countries gathered there, according to a senior NATO-country diplomat. Information about the movement of Qaddafi troops toward Benghazi had been clear on Friday, but France blocked any NATO agreement on airstrikes until the Paris meeting, the diplomat said, suggesting that overflights could have begun Friday night before Mr. Qaddafi’s troops reached Benghazi.

The initial stage of the military operation will be run by France and Britain with significant American help, including radar planes, command and control, and precision-guided munitions, including cruise missiles and B52 bombers, NATO officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/world ... ya.html?hp

[vk1]

Huvitav, mis selle Liibüa õhutõrje riistapuu täpne markeering võiks olla?

mingi Strela versioon on, mul ei tule õige markeering meelde, Strelets vist on. kasutusel vist veel ka Singapuris?

[Zill154]

USA väed alustasid tule andmist Liibüa pihta tomahawk rakettidega, neid toetab Prantsusmaa õhust.Täieulatuslik rünnak on alanud Liibüa vägede vastu!

[setu]

Päris suur tomahawkide hulk on nimetatud.

Uskumatu telepöördumine. Antakse sõna, naeratatakse. Kerges meeleolus. Mõtetud küsimused. Tänatakse jne. Masendav. Inglased on täna "kaitsmas liibüa rahvast" ja nad "on koalitsioonis". Lisaks leiti "uued militaarbaasid"...

tomahawkid siis US ja UK ristlejatelt ja allveelaevadelt.

[Zill154]

110 tomahawk raketti on tulistatud Liibüa vägede vastu!

[kaur3]

Libyan Revolution Faces Defeat without External Military Intervention
By Jeffrey White
March 17, 2011

The Need for Intervention

The rebels face outright military defeat, whether it comes quickly or after protracted fighting. Assuming there is no external intervention, and factoring in the time needed for the regime to finish operations in the west, consolidate its gains, and reposition its forces, the rebels will likely be ground down in the coming weeks, if not days. In the west, Misratah will fall, perhaps after a relatively long struggle similar to that seen in Zawiyah. In the east, the battle for Ajdabiya will be followed by the battle for Benghazi, or at least isolation and gradual siege of that crucial stronghold.

External military intervention would likely be decisive in preventing this outcome if it came soon enough and was sufficiently robust. "Soon" means days, not weeks -- even a serious threat of intervention could be important in terms of the short-term psychological balance.

In terms of military effectiveness, the best option would be one combining limited air strikes against regime air and ground forces, the creation of no-fly and no-drive zones, and the insertion of ground forces to bolster rebel defenses in the east. This would best be carried out by a coalition of forces from the United States, NATO, and one or more Arab states (perhaps Egypt). Such an approach could be initiated rapidly and escalated in stages if necessary. Intervention on this level would likely cause the rapid collapse of government forces in the east, with forces in the west succumbing more gradually. In political terms, however, this option would be difficult to green-light.

The next best option would involve U.S./NATO forces, along with one or more Arab states, establishing no-fly zones and providing military assistance to the rebels. This would have a significant military and psychological impact on both sides and could probably be implemented more rapidly than the previous option. It would also be easier to manage politically, although not necessarily easy.

A third option would be to simply establish no-fly zones. Although less effective, this approach would still have some military and psychological impact. It would also be even easier from a political standpoint.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/temp ... p?CID=3329

Taustaks.

Military Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD): Assessing Future Needs. 11-05.2005

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RS21141.pdf

Ja nii see NATO tulebki, kui ta on hiljaks jäänud. Mida meil sellest teadmisest oleks õppida?

[Zill154]

USA riigisekretär Hillary Clinton ütles, et Ühendriigid kasutavad enda käsutuses olevaid ainulaadseid võimalusi, hoiatades samas, et tegevusega viivitamine paneks tsiviilisikute elu ohtu. Clinton rõhutas aga, et maavägesid USA Liibüasse ei saada. Ühendriikide president Barack Obama nimetas USA samme piiratud sõjaliseks tegevuseks laia koalitsiooni raames ja põhjendas tegevusse asumist sellega, et USA ei saa kõrvalt vaadata, kuidas türann oma rahvale teatab, et halastust pole loota.

Mis on need ainulaadsed võimalused? Õigus võimutseda maailmas?

[TTA]

USA riigisekretär Hillary Clinton ütles, et Ühendriigid kasutavad enda käsutuses olevaid ainulaadseid võimalusi, hoiatades samas, et tegevusega viivitamine paneks tsiviilisikute elu ohtu. Clinton rõhutas aga, et maavägesid USA Liibüasse ei saada. Ühendriikide president Barack Obama nimetas USA samme piiratud sõjaliseks tegevuseks laia koalitsiooni raames ja põhjendas tegevusse asumist sellega, et USA ei saa kõrvalt vaadata, kuidas türann oma rahvale teatab, et halastust pole loota.

Mis on need ainulaadsed võimalused? Õigus võimutseda maailmas?

Tõenäoliselt erinevad EW platvormid

[Zill154]

Täpsem selgitus ?

[Seersant Steiner]

järjekordne agressioon suveräänse riigi vastu aga jah bahreinis ja saudi arrabias võib riik oma rahvast tappa ja meie riik toetab seda aga õnneks saabub maailma lõpp varsti

[Tiam]

Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr., KBE (born December 23, 1944) is a retired general of the United States Army. Graduating as valedictorian of his class at West Point, he was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics, and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science. He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

Clark joined the 2004 race for the Democratic Party presidential nomination as a candidate on September 17, 2003, but withdrew from the primary race on February 11, 2004, after winning the Oklahoma state primary, endorsing and campaigning for the eventual Democratic nominee, John Kerry. Clark currently leads a political action committee—"WesPAC"—which was formed after the 2004 primaries,[1][2] and used it to support numerous Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 midterm elections.[3] Clark was considered a potential candidate for the Democratic nomination in 2008, but, on September 15, 2007, endorsed Senator Hillary Clinton.[4] After Clinton dropped out of the Presidential race, Clark endorsed the then-presumptive Democratic nominee, Barack Obama.[5] Clark currently serves as the co-chairman of Growth Energy, an ethanol lobbying group[6][7] and on the board of directors of BNK Petroleum.

Sellise taustaga mehel on öelda seoses Liibüa rünnaku kohta järgmist Pange tähele millal see video on tehtud (2007).

[Wrangel]

USA keeras kogu selle araabiamaade mäsu oma tegutsemise kasuks Liibüa vastu. Põgenikud igalt poolt liiguvad Euroopasse aga USA saab näidata kui demokraatlik ta on ja "vabastab" Liibüa. Krt omal Kuuba nina all kus toimuvad palju hullemad asjad. Sinna ei taheta "vabadust viia", sest sealt läheks põgenikud USAsse. Nende hea võimalus on siis näidata end vabastajatena ja kogu põgeniketulv lasta Euroopal kanda.

Ja USA tegutseb praegu sellise vanasõna järgi: "Kui tahad koera jalaga lüüa siis vali välja võimalikult väike koer!". Iraani rünnata ei juleta aga mingit Liibüat on ju hea taguda, kus elanikke vähem kui Belgias.

PS! Ja Gadaffi on üks väheseid, kes on naftarahasid jaganud kogu rahvale, tasuta haridus ja arstiabi on näited.

[kaur3]

The Pentagon says 114 Tomahawk cruise missiles have been launched from U.S. and British ships in the Mediterranean, hitting more than 20 Libyan targets along the Mediterranean coastline.

The U.S. has at least 11 naval vessels in the Mediterranean, including three submarines, two destroyers, two amphibious warfare ships and the USS Mount Whitney, a command-and-control vessel that is the flagship of the Navy's 6th Fleet. Also in the area are Navy P-3 and EP-3 surveillance aircraft, officials said.

A senior military official tells Fox News that the U.S. will be targeting air defenses along the Libyan coast in Operation Odyssey Dawn. There are a total of 25 coalition ships in the Mediterranean, with the U.S. contributing 11 warships.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/19 ... y-vehicle/

Early Sunday, the sound of antiaircraft fire and screaming fighter jets echoed across Tripoli, punctuated by heavy explosions. CBS News reported that American B-2 bombers dropped 40 bombs on a major Libyan airfield, but there was no immediate official confirmation from Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/world ... ya.html?hp

At West Point last week, Bob Gates, the defence secretary who took over from Donald Rumsfeld in the Bush administration and whom Mr Obama kept on, said that “any future defence secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should have his head examined.”

http://www.economist.com/node/18284079