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Doklam

Postitatud: 09 Aug, 2017 16:43
Postitas ruger
Pakistani meedia andmetel võib tekkida konfliktikolle India ja Hiina vahele
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1475151/ch ... ign=buffer

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 09 Aug, 2017 22:29
Postitas ruger
Tehnikat kohale ikka viiakse
1/3 China & India reportedly beef up borders around Sikkim area DF-16 MRBM; HQ-17 (TorCopy), HQ-16, AirDef systems
https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/895370541573570560
2/3 China and India reportedly beef up borders around Sikkim area
https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/895377106745643008
3/3 China (first part) and India (second part) reportedly beef up borders around Sikkim area
https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/895381178689228801

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 10 Aug, 2017 12:45
Postitas Tinker
CaspianReporti video samal teemal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LK1NJZSO5M

Päris hea ülevaade sellest konflikist minu meelest.

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 15 Aug, 2017 16:51
Postitas Kriku

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 16 Aug, 2017 12:24
Postitas Tinker
India ja Hiina sõdurite vahel toimus kokkupõrge vaidlusalusel Aksai Chini piirialal Tiibeti platool. [...] "Leidis aset väiksem vahejuhtum. Hiina poolelt lähtus mõningast kividega loopimist, aga olukord saadi kiiresti kontrolli all
http://www.err.ee/613193/india-ja-hiina ... kokkuporge

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 19 Aug, 2017 16:17
Postitas ruger
Tinker kirjutas:
India ja Hiina sõdurite vahel toimus kokkupõrge vaidlusalusel Aksai Chini piirialal Tiibeti platool. [...] "Leidis aset väiksem vahejuhtum. Hiina poolelt lähtus mõningast kividega loopimist, aga olukord saadi kiiresti kontrolli all
http://www.err.ee/613193/india-ja-hiina ... kokkuporge
Video ka siis toimunust
https://twitter.com/ThePrintIndia/statu ... 6813967361

Re: Doklam

Postitatud: 08 Sept, 2017 15:52
Postitas Porutšik
Paneme ka PM artikli siia.
India maavägede juht süüdistas Hiinat India kannatuse proovile panemises ning rõhutas, et riik peab olema valmis sõjaks.

Kindral Bipin Rawat rõhutas, et kuigi India ja Hiina piirivastasseis Himaalaja platool augustis lõppes, ei tähenda see, et India saab loorberitele puhkama jääda. Riik peab tema sõnul olema valmis üleüldiseks sõjaks.

«Mis puutub meie põhjapoolsesse vastasesse, siis alanud on jõudemonstratsioon,» ütles Rawat eile õhtul New Delhi mõttekojas Hiinale viidates.

«Vorstiviilutamine, hästi vähehaaval territooriumi ülevõtmine, meie tegutsemisläve piiri kompamine – need on asjad, mille suhtes me peame valvsuse säilitama ja olema valmis olukordadeks, mis võivad järkjärgult konfliktiks paisuda,» lisas ta.

Rawati sõnul ei ole võimalik ennustada, kas tekkiv konflikt on ajas ja ruumis piiratud või laieneb üleüldiseks sõjaks kogu rindel.
http://maailm.postimees.ee/4235819/arme ... tuse-piire

Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 16 Juun, 2020 18:26
Postitas ruger
Vaikselt on podisemas uus konflikt Hiina ja India vahel. Riigid veavad piiridele üksuseid ja viivad läbi õppuseid.

Viimastel andmetel sai täna vähemalt 20 India sõdurit surma
At least 20 Indian soldiers killed in the skirmish with Chinese troops in Galwan Valley region...
https://twitter.com/rajatpTOI/status/12 ... 6950945792

Teistel andmetel 35 India ja 50 Hiina poolelt
Around 35 on our side and 50 on Chinese side
https://twitter.com/tomar___/status/1272923678544519176

Viga on saanud üle 135 India sõduri
This is no longer a mere 'clash'. Sources have revealed that:
At least 20 Indian troops are already dead. 3 of bullet wounds.
45 have been captured with 25 of that number having been released.
135 Indian troops are injured with some at 303 field hospital and others at GH Leh.
https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1272894310376235008
*Official Statement * Indian and Chinese troops have disengaged at the Galwan area where they had earlier clashed on the night of 15/16 June 2020. 17 Indian troops who were critically injured in the line of duty at the stand off location have succumbed to their injuries.
https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/ ... 7595118593

Suur kaklus
At least three Indian soldiers were killed after a “violent face-off” with China along a disputed border region in the Himalayas on Monday.

According to an Indian army statement reported by NDTV, one Indian officer and two soldiers were killed in the clash, marking the first violent incident between India and China involving fatalities since 1975.

“During the de-escalation process underway in the Galwan Valley, a violent face-off took place yesterday night with casualties on both sides,” the Indian army statement said. “The loss of lives on the Indian side includes an officer and two soldiers. Senior military officials of the two sides are currently meeting at the venue to defuse the situation.”

NDTV reported claims the brawl began after Chinese soldiers threw stones at and attacked the Indian officer, identified as Col. B. Santosh Babu. Indian soldiers then reportedly entered the fray, which lasted several hours.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/0 ... at-border/

3 India sõjaväelast läks kaduma. Üks neist koloneli auastmes.
Sadly, Indian casualties in the violent clash with Chinese troops in the Galwan Vally region are more than the three (Colonel, JCO, jawan) confirmed earlier...many were grievously injured in the brawl...
https://twitter.com/asifsuhaf/status/12 ... 6419553281

India veab vägesid juurde
This reinforcements of Tanks and probably troops by the Indian Army were brought to the disputed SikKim sector between China and India, in the Northeast of the Indian territory.
https://twitter.com/ISCResearch/status/ ... 8053629953

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 16 Juun, 2020 19:54
Postitas ruger
Mingi kirjeldus toimunust
Pilt
https://twitter.com/Tweet2Premkumar/sta ... 0081667072
Tension between India and China is increasing. On Monday night, 20 soldiers of India were killed in violent clashes on LAC. China has also suffered a lot in this clash. 43 of his soldiers have been killed.
https://twitter.com/elitehindi/status/1 ... 1765108737

Eesti ka avastanud
https://maailm.postimees.ee/6998505/ind ... svas-20-le

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 16 Juun, 2020 22:47
Postitas ruger
India andis vajadusel loa relva kasutada
India ordered the National Army to shoot at the #Ladakh border.
https://twitter.com/EwaEdyta/status/1272965265014259713

Eesti pool ka kirjutab pikemalt
https://maailm.postimees.ee/6998505/ind ... svas-20-le

Viimases kakluses osales ca 900+ inimest mõlemalt poolt. Kogu jama toimub ca 4,5 km kõrgusel mägedes.
"900+ troops on each side were involved ... started Monday night, lasted several hours & ended on early hours of Tuesday. Most deaths occurred as soldiers fell-off cliffs during a physical fight in the narrow Galwan valley into the river at 15,000 feet"

"Stones, Steel poles, bamboo poles with nails embed on them, were used by the Chinese, to attack the Indian troops. The Peoples’ Liberation Army (PLA) of China, have also suffered fatal casualties."

"Detailing the incident, sources said it occurred at almost 15,000 feet ... PLA had build a fresh post and set up arctic tents at vantage position on the south bank of the Galwan river. The post gave a clear view to Chinese of the vital [DSDBO road]"

"Troops of the 16th battalion of the Bihar Regiment noticed this fresh military post near patrol point 14 and asked the Chinese to vacate. The number of Indian Troops was greater than the Chinese on the spot, a clash ensued. The PLA sent in reinforcements another clash ensued."

'The Indian soldiers, the sources said, were outnumbered at this point. Since the engagement was happening on a narrow slope, some soldiers fell into the confluence of the Shyok and Galwan rivers, the sources added. More Indian troops then rushed in ...'

"It was only in the morning that the bodies were found, including those of the soldiers who had fallen into the river ... While some of the deaths were the result of the clashes, the other soldiers died of hypothermia after falling into the cold waters of the river, sources said"

India "was supposed to stay to the west of the river junction and the Chinese to the east of the LAC — to prevent faceoffs. An argument, officers said, started over the position of Chinese soldiers who had started erecting a new post on the southern bank"

A grim detail from the Indian Express. "Some [Indian] bodies were recovered from the river while others had signs of being brutalised"
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1272973324751167489

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 16 Juun, 2020 23:12
Postitas Hukatus
Rõõm näha, et tänapäeva moodsad armeed veel ka kiviaegsetest nuiaga sõjapidamisviisidest lugu peavad.

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 16 Juun, 2020 23:30
Postitas ruger
India TV ka kannab üle. Eks harjutavad IV maailmasõja jaoks. Mehi ja muud materjali peaks neil mõlemal piisavalt olema.
https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/12 ... 1844168704

War On The Rocks kommenteerib
https://warontherocks.com/2020/06/tensi ... se-border/

Piirkonna kaart ka NY Timesi lehelt
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/worl ... clash.html

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 17 Juun, 2020 8:49
Postitas Kriku
Hukatus kirjutas:Rõõm näha, et tänapäeva moodsad armeed veel ka kiviaegsetest nuiaga sõjapidamisviisidest lugu peavad.
Ma saan aru, et enne rünnakut oli India sõjaväelastel keelatud esimesena relva kasutada?

Niisugused lollid korraldused lõppevad alati mingi suurema hädaga :(

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 17 Juun, 2020 9:09
Postitas Hukatus
"Stones, Steel poles, bamboo poles with nails embed on them, were used by the Chinese, to attack the Indian troops. ... While some of the deaths were the result of the clashes, the other soldiers died of hypothermia after falling into the cold waters of the river, sources said"
Ründavad hiinlased kasutasid kaikaid, enamus ohvreid külmus surnuks.
Korralik "aumeeste" lööma oli, mitte ühepoolne tulirelvadega lahing.

Re: Hiina ja India suhted

Postitatud: 17 Juun, 2020 9:10
Postitas Kriku
Just - kaikarünnak seetõttu ette võetigi, et oli eelinfo, et vastane tulirelva ei kasuta.