Ülejäänud NATO militaarne areng

[aj1972]

USA suurendab rakettide tootmist,et jaguks endale ja liitlastele.
https://defence-industry.eu/lockheed-ma ... -missiles/

[pwn13]

Kreeka ostab f-35 hävitajaid. Ilmselt see sultanile ülemäära hästi ei istu. Võimalik, et see paneb isegi s-400 süsteemist loobumise peale mõtlema.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1844462404329189648

[kaugeltuuriv]

Britid ja sakslased sõlmisid kaitsekoostööleppe,milles nähakse ette koostööd relvastuse arendamisel ja tootmisel.
See on huvitav samma aga samas brittide puhul ka sunnitud asi,sest osad asjad hakkavadki vist tulema neile Saksamaalt või koostöös nendega.Kas see uus jalaväe lahingumasin ei olegi Reinmetalliga kahasse tehtud?

[Gideonic]

Britid ja sakslased sõlmisid kaitsekoostööleppe,milles nähakse ette koostööd relvastuse arendamisel ja tootmisel.
See on huvitav samma aga samas brittide puhul ka sunnitud asi,sest osad asjad hakkavadki vist tulema neile Saksamaalt või koostöös nendega.Kas see uus jalaväe lahingumasin ei olegi Reinmetalliga kahasse tehtud?

On, ja nende Challenger 3 täiendust (tegelikult Challenger 2 uue torni ja saksa 120mm sileraudse rauaga) teeb ka kohalik Reinmetalli haru.

[nukkel]

https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-protes ... 43261.html
Tea kas õige teema, aga venelased pole rahul mingi uue baasiga Saksamaal.

[kaur3]

Iltalehti sõnul kaalutakse NATO Soome tõsist luurekeskust.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/b ... d24d936ae7

[ruger]

Brittidel kärpekäärid... Tundub, et ei taheta aru saada, et armeed on vaja kasvatada, mitte vähendada... Praegune võimalik kokkuhoid, makstakse hiljem kordades suuremana kinni... Ja küsimus on, mille arvelt hiljem seda suurendada, kui läheb kordades kallimaks.

Defence Secretary John Healey announced the move in parliament on Wednesday, saying it would save up to half a billion pounds over the next five years.

The UK will scrap five warships, dozens of military helicopters and a fleet of drones to save money despite growing threats from Russia and a war raging in Europe.

John Healey, the defence secretary, announced the dramatic move in parliament on Wednesday, saying it would save up to half a billion pounds over the next five years.

The defence secretary described the equipment being axed as "outdated" and said the "common sense" decision to retire them was long overdue.

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He signalled the decision was part of a plan to restructure and modernise the armed forces, which have already been significantly reduced in size following decades of cost-saving cuts, with new capabilities due to come online to replace the gaps.

"We face increasing global threats," Mr Healey said in a written statement that was released at the same time as he addressed MPs.

"War in Europe, growing Russian aggression, conflict in the Middle East and technology changing the nature of warfare. As a result, defence needs increased resilience and readiness for the future."

At the same time, though, he said the defence budget faced "serious financial pressures".

He repeated a pledge that the government would set out a course to lift the defence budget to 2.5% of national income - but yet again without giving a date.

The defence secretary then spelt out what "difficult decisions" meant in reality.

"To ensure that Britain is kept secure at home and strong abroad in a changing world, defence needs to make changes too. Difficult decisions are required," he said.

The weapons systems on the chopping block are:

• The Royal Navy's two amphibious assault ships, HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark. They will be taken out of service at the end of the year - around a decade early in a blow to the ability of the Royal Marines to launch land assaults from the sea.
• A fleet of 17 Royal Air Force Puma helicopters, as well as 14 of the military's oldest Chinook helicopters
• A fleet of 46 Watchkeeper drones - each worth about £5m - barely six years since they entered into service
• HMS Northumberland, a Type 23 frigate, which is in need of costly repairs and has already operated well beyond an 18-year out-of-service date
• Two large Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships, RFA Wave Knight and RFA Wave Ruler - vessels which carry fuel and supplies to enable the Royal Navy's aircraft carriers to operate around the world.

Mr Healey also hinted that further cuts would follow.

"These will not be the last difficult decisions I will have to make, to fix the defence inheritance that we were left with," he told MPs.

The announcement, while uncomfortable, is designed to be the least damaging way to reduce costs while retaining capability.

It comes ahead of a plan by the government to publish a sweeping new review of defence in the spring, which is being drawn up by an external team and is expected to recommend extensive changes across the army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force.

The Ministry of Defence says that the equipment that is being axed - the term used is "accelerated retirement" - was selected because it is outdated and military chiefs need to focus finite money and personnel instead on the weapons systems most suited to modern warfare.

However, Russia's war in Ukraine has demonstrated that old, outdated weapons are better than no weapons at all.

However, the programme has been beset by delays, cost overruns and flaws.

The first Watchkeeper drones only started operating around 2018 - some eight years late.

They also struggle to operate in poor weather conditions - limiting their utility.

The rapid pace of evolving technology in drone warfare - where the development cycle is a mere six to eight weeks - means that the technology inside Watchkeeper, which was conceived of more than 14 years ago, may well be easily defeated in a fight.

It is understood that scrapping the aircraft means that the army will be able to focus money on developing new innovative drone capabilities.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-scrap- ... d-13257285

Assault ships HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark have been scrapped, alongside HMS Northumberland, as well as several other capabilities.

Defence Secretary John Healey confirmed in Parliament today that HMS Albion, HMS Bulwark, and the Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland will be decommissioned as part of a broader push to modernise the UK Armed Forces. The decision comes as part of a series of measures to retire what the Government called outdated military equipment, saving £150 million over the next two years and up to £500 million over five years.

Healey explained the rationale for the move, stating: “For too long, our soldiers, sailors, and aviators have been stuck with old, outdated equipment because ministers would not make the difficult decommissioning decisions. As technology advances at pace, we must move faster towards the future.”

The Albion-class amphibious assault ships, HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark, had already been in extended readiness under previous governments, incurring significant maintenance costs without being actively deployed. Healey clarified: “Both ships were effectively retired by previous ministers but superficially kept on the books at a cost of £9 million a year.”

HMS Northumberland, meanwhile, has been deemed uneconomical to repair due to structural damage.

The Defence Secretary assured MPs that these decommissioning decisions were made in close consultation with service chiefs and align with the ongoing Strategic Defence Review (SDR).

Healey emphasised: “These are common-sense decisions which previous governments failed to take, decisions that will secure better value for money for the taxpayer and better outcomes for the military.”

While acknowledging the significant operational roles played by these vessels in the past, Healey stated: “Their work is done. We must look now to the future.” He also confirmed that no redundancies will result from the decommissioning, with personnel being retrained or redeployed.

The decision to decommission these ships is part of a broader reform programme aimed at addressing what Healey described as a “dire inheritance” of defence finances and capabilities. He noted: “The first duty of government is to keep this country safe. That is why we are injecting investment and introducing tight financial controls to fix the foundations for UK defence.”

Healey also announced reforms to streamline defence operations, including the creation of a new Military Strategic Headquarters and tighter prioritisation of spending.

The retirement of both Albion-class ships raises questions about the future of the UK’s amphibious warfare capabilities. However, Healey reassured Parliament that the Royal Marines would remain a critical component of the UK’s defence strategy. He quoted the First Sea Lord, saying: “The threat is changing, so we must have the self-confidence to make the changes required.”

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/albion- ... -scrapped/

[ruger]

Türgi eemaldas oma ÕT juhtimissüsteemist S-400 lahendused.

Turkey has "disconnected" the Russian-made S-400 system from its radar network.

Aselsan, a Turkish defense company, has carried out a major revision of its internal documentation, removing the Russian-made S-400 Triumf air defense system from its Hakim 100 command and control system. The update has sparked interest as the S-400 was previously included in the Hakim 100 integrated air defense network, alongside other systems such as the Sibir air defense system - Defence Turk

https://x.com/AlexandruC4/status/1879115614888903137

Türgi vaatab nende rannikul olevaid Kreeka saari, kui endale kuuluvaid.

BREAKING Chairman of Turkish Nationalist Movement Party Devlet Bahceli:

The 12 Islands were unjustly seized from their rightful owner, the Turkish nation.

Living without Türkiye is a mere dream for the 12 Islands.

Even if Türkiye can live without the 12 Islands, the 12 Islands cannot survive without Türkiye. Türkiye will never abandon its rights in the Blue Homeland.

We warn Greece not to repeat past mistakes by acting under Western influence, as in the 1920s, and advise Athens to tread carefully.

While I believe peace benefits everyone, if achieving peace requires fighting, for us, that’s a celebration.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1879075555066184093


Kreeka plaanib hankida ÕT süsteemi(Iron Dome analoog) Iisraelist.

Greece is in talks with Israel to develop a 2 billion euro ($2.11 billion) anti-aircraft and missile defence dome, Greek officials said on Thursday.

Greece is keen to invest in its defenses to keep up with its historic rival Turkey.

“The plan is to create a multi-layer anti-aircraft and anti-drone system,” one source with knowledge of the issue told Reuters after a closed door briefing with Greek Defence Minister Nikos Dendias.

“We are in discussions with Israel,” the source said.

https://x.com/cozyduke_apt29/status/1857112479094186017

The defences would likely mimic Israel's Iron Dome and other systems that intercept short- and long-range missiles launched during strikes from its neighbours amid the ongoing conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 024-11-14/

Lisaks hangitakse raketiheitjaid

THENS – Talking softly and carrying a big stick in stalled talks with #Turkey during a detente, #Greece is reportedly finalizing a #deal to #buy 36 PULS #rocket #artillery systems from# Israel and wants to get 40 F-35 US #fighter #jets and four French warships.

https://x.com/NationalHerald/status/1868748015684509830

[HAT]

vene https://t.me/ToBeOr_Official/16985 on NATO kenasti kokkuvõtnud ,
nõustudes, et Mark Rutte-l on ÕIGUS ja koostanud tabeli.
IMHO - Tavapaduvene vaatab tabelit seal siberis ja arvabki, et putinil õigus, ei valeta- venet ümbritsevad vaenulikud riigid, kes kaitsekulutusi vaid suurendavad vene ründamiseks e. oht reaalne, saamata aru, mis on põhjus, mis tagajärg.
Osatõlkes:
Ruttel on täiesti õigus ja ta saab kõigest suurepäraselt aru. (Nagu sina ja mina). Üldiselt tundub Rutte olevat õige mees õigel ajal õiges kohas. Nüüd aga ei räägi me temast, vaid NATO riikide kulutustest.

Graafik näitab NATO riikide kaitsekulutusi 2024. aastal võrreldes 2021. aastaga (Atlantic Councili andmed).


1. Польша - 4,12% (4, 2,22%)
2. Эстония - 3,43% (6, 2,03%)
3. США - 3,38% (2, 3,53%)
4. Латвия - 3,15% (5, 1,96%)
5. Греция - 3,08% (1, 3,7%)
6. Литва - 2,85% (7, 1,96%)
7. Финляндия - 2,41% (21, 1,4%)
8. Дания - 2,37% (25, 1,3%)
9. Великобритания - 2,33% (3, 2,29%)
10. Румыния - 2,25% (10, 1,85%)
11. С. Македония - 2,22% (18-19, 1,45%)
12. Норвегия - 2,2% (12, 1,68%)
13. Болгария - 2,18% (17, 1,52%)
14. Швеция - 2,14% (20, 1,42%)
15. Германия - 2,12% (18-19, 1,45%)
16. Венгрия - 2,11% (24, 1,32%)
17. Чехия - 2,1% (22, 1,39%)
18. Турция - 2,09% (13, 1,61%)
19. Франция - 2,06% (9, 1,91%)
20. Нидерланды - 2,05% (23, 1,36%)
21. Албания - 2,03% (27, 1,24%)
22. Черногория - 2,02% (14, 1,55%)
23. Словакия - 2% (11, 1,74%)
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24. Хорватия - 1,81% (8, 1,95%)
25. Португалия - 1,55% (16, 1,52%)
26. Италия - 1,49% (15, 1,54%)
27. Канада - 1,37% (26, 1,27%)
28. Бельгия - 1,3% (29, 1,04%)
29-30. Словения - 1,29% (28, 1,23%)
29-30. Люксембург - 1,29% (31, 0,47%)
31. Испания - 1,28% (30, 1,03%)
32. Исландия - 0% (32, 0%, у неё нет армии)

[ruger]

Tšehhid vahetamas välja(vana liikumas suure tõenäosusega reservüksustele) suhteliselt uut Pandur II IFV-d. PIkemalt võimalikest kandidaatidest.

The army is looking for a replacement for 107 Pandur II 8x8 CZ wheeled IFVs, which it purchased in 2009 for CZK 14.4 billion (~$640 million).

Originally, the Ministry of Defence wanted to upgrade 107 of 127 Pandur II 8x8 CZs and buy dozens of new ones for the new mechanised battalion. However, it now looks like the current Pandurs will be taken out of service and replaced with new wheeled IFVs. The Ministry has already approached several manufacturers.

https://x.com/praisethesteph/status/1880977339640885345

[HeiniR]

https://x.com/jeff21461/status/1882354097258713414?s=46

Säuts,et Patria Pasist võib saada asendus ka brittide FV432-le. Vähemalt kavatsetakse Pasi asendusvõimalusena pakkuda.
Kui see kuidagi reaalsuseks peaks saama, siis on veel rohkem kahju,et meie teise suuna valisime.

[mart2]

Meie asukoht ja rahvaarv seab kaks kõige tähtsamat kriteeriumit - RAHA ja TARNIMISE AEG!
Kõige ilusamaid asju võimegi jääda ootama, sest pidevalt tuleb mingeid uusi arendusi peale ...

Parafraseerides vana ütlust: Parem täna "rootsi aer" peos kui super-hüper 6,5mm-ne alles10 aasta pärast!

Isiklik arvamus.

[Gideonic]

Taanlased kavatsevad kaitsehangete bürokraatiast loobuda

https://x.com/michaeldweiss/status/1892264264510890389

Jutt väga üldsõnaline aga mõte on laias laastus osta lihtsalt saadaolevat tehnikat vastavalt sõjaväe vajadustele, otse. Kui mingitel põhjustel pole saada valik nr 1, võtta nr 2, jne ...

Päris huvitav mõte mida rakendada.

[Runkel]

Jutt väga üldsõnaline aga mõte on laias laastus osta lihtsalt saadaolevat tehnikat vastavalt sõjaväe vajadustele, otse. Kui mingitel põhjustel pole saada valik nr 1, võtta nr 2, jne ...

See viitab, et kriteeriumiks on jäänud vaid tarne aeg. Võtta relvastust, mida kohe kätte saab. Relvile!

[kaur3]