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Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 23 Sept, 2017 14:25
Postitas metroo
Echo.msk ajakirjanik Dragunski rõõmustab, et enam pole Stalini aeg. Et ei kujutaks ettegi, mis ootaks skulptor Štšerbakovi Lubjankal. Kolm aastat tagasi oskas ta ühele monumendile lisada Saksa vindi Mauser, nüüd siis StG 44 joonis.
Aga humaanses ühiskonnas saeti Mauser maha, StG joonis rebitakse välja ja skulptor saab rahumeeli asuda Nõukogude kosmonautika suurkuju Sergei Koroljovi monumendi modelleerimisele.
Taustaks loomulikult Wernher von Brauni V2 :wall:
http://echo.msk.ru/blog/dragunsky/2060662-echo/

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 25 Sept, 2017 5:50
Postitas Kurjam

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 25 Sept, 2017 8:09
Postitas huvitun
Pilt

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 10 Sept, 2021 17:56
Postitas Tux
On ilmunud huvitav video dokumentaal sellest kuidas ikkagi AK tehti.
Kokkuvõtte: ametlik ajalugu on täielik jamps ja Hugol polnud seal ka erilist rolli. Pigem mängis viimane Venemaal olles lihtsalt lolli. Kalashnikov oli aga lihtsalt sobival ajal ja kohas viibiv tankist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWxqxxGOEU

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 02 Nov, 2021 13:43
Postitas nimetu
Head videod Kalašnikovi ja Stoneriga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQd2enb6qBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmwUnG51_So
Selgitavad relvade loomise tagamaid.

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 06 Juun, 2025 11:03
Postitas Porutšik

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 06 Juun, 2025 22:02
Postitas gorilla
Ei soovita vaadata.

Mingi segane jamps.

Selle asemel, et keskenduda kuidas tekkis 7,62x39 padrun CCCP huviorbiiti.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vollmer_M35
he M 35 was a gas-operated design, reminiscent of an earlier semi-automatic design of Vollmer—the 7.92×57mm Selbstladegewehr 29 (SG 29). Trials with Vollmer's Maschinenkarabine were conducted as early as 1935 at Biberach and later at Kummersdorf. The early version had a 20-round detachable box magazine and could fire at a rate of about 1,000 rpm. Development continued with the improved versions M 35A, M 35/II (1937) and M 35/III through 1938. The later versions had intentionally reduced rate of fire to only about 300–400rpm.[3] It weighed about 9.5 pounds (4.3 kg) and was about 38 inches (97 cm) long. About 25 prototypes were manufactured for testing.[1] The gun was apparently very expensive to manufacture, costing 4000 Reichsmarks,[2] although this was the unit cost for the prototype series.[4]

The cartridge developed also had several variants including 7.75×40.5 mm, 7.75×39.5mm, and possibly a 7.62mm version as well, and had a total length of approximately 55 mm. (The actual calibre was apparently 7.9mm, with a bullet 8.05mm in diameter.[5]) Muzzle velocity was about 700 m/s (2,280 feet per second). The boat-tailed bullet weighted 140 grains (9 grams).[6]
Vollmer MKb 35
Vollmer MKb 35/III - 7.75x40.5mm GECO

The Vollmer MKb 35 (German: Vollmer Maschinenkarabiner 35, "Volmer Machine Carbine 35") is a series of of experimental automatic rifles, which was developed by Heinrich Vollmer. Other names for the rifle include: Vollmer M35.
Vollmer MKb 35 - Original prototype model.
Vollmer MKb 35/I - Updated prototype model from 1936 (?).
Vollmer MKb 35/II - Updated prototype model from 1937.

Vollmer MKb 35/III - Updated prototype model from 1938.
Specifications

(Production: 1934 – 1938)

Type: Assault Rifle
Country of Origin: Nazi Germany
Caliber: 7.75mm
Cartridge: 7.75x39.5mm GECO / 7.75x40.5mm GECO
Weight: 9.5 lbs (4.3 kg)
Length: 38.2 in (97 cm)
Barrel length: ??
Capacity: 20 rounds Detachable Box Magazine
Rate of fire: 1000 rpm first prototype. 300-400 rpm next prototypes
''Kalashnikov -47'' on lihtsalt sibula propaganda nagu ka ''nende'' 7.62x39 padrun.

Re: AK-47 (mis oli eellane)

Postitatud: 09 Juun, 2025 16:18
Postitas Porutšik
Ei näe siin midagi segast. Ja vaidlus, kumb oli enne - padrun või relv, on liiga laialivalguv.