Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 14 Okt, 2022 16:37
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Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
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Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 15 Okt, 2022 15:18
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Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 17 Okt, 2022 18:02
Ukraina sai hulga naisterahvaid (108 inimest) sõjavangist tagasi
Ukraine
liberated 108 women from captivity: 37 evacuees from Azovstal, 11 officers, 85 enlisted. 35 were defenders from the military; 32 from the Navy; 12 from the Army; 8 from the National Guard - including 2 from Azov; 5 Transport Service; 4 Border Guards & 12 civilians.
https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/statu ... 7113662464
https://twitter.com/ukraine_ua/status/1 ... 8675402752
Vabastatute hulgas ka 3 aastat ja 13 päeva vangistuses veetnud lastekodulastega tegelenud naine
Russia released 108 women from captivity after today’s exchange. Among them is Lyudmila Parkhomenko. She was imprisoned in occupied Donetsk for protecting orphaned children. She spent three years and 13 days in detention. She is finally free and just called our colleague.
https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1582060611675992064
Videod ka
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 3186254848
https://twitter.com/AndriyYermak/status ... 2315607042
Ukraine
liberated 108 women from captivity: 37 evacuees from Azovstal, 11 officers, 85 enlisted. 35 were defenders from the military; 32 from the Navy; 12 from the Army; 8 from the National Guard - including 2 from Azov; 5 Transport Service; 4 Border Guards & 12 civilians.https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/statu ... 7113662464
https://twitter.com/ukraine_ua/status/1 ... 8675402752
Vabastatute hulgas ka 3 aastat ja 13 päeva vangistuses veetnud lastekodulastega tegelenud naine
Russia released 108 women from captivity after today’s exchange. Among them is Lyudmila Parkhomenko. She was imprisoned in occupied Donetsk for protecting orphaned children. She spent three years and 13 days in detention. She is finally free and just called our colleague.
https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1582060611675992064
Videod ka
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 3186254848
https://twitter.com/AndriyYermak/status ... 2315607042
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 17 Okt, 2022 20:39
Rahvusvahelise Punase Risti komisjon ei ilmunud kohale, et küsida Orkide esindajatelt luba minna koos UKR esindajatega uurima Olenivka kinnipidamiskohta ja kohtuma UKR sõjavangidega.
Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross did not come to the border with the temporarily occupied territories, although the Ukrainian delegation was waiting for them there.
This was reported by Dmytro Lubinets, the Commissioner of Human Rights of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
It is noted that Ukraine planned to visit the demarcation line together with the International Committee of the Red Cross in order to encourage it to obtain from Russia access to the colony in Olenivka in order to visit Ukrainian prisoners of war.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 8082323457
Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross did not come to the border with the temporarily occupied territories, although the Ukrainian delegation was waiting for them there.
This was reported by Dmytro Lubinets, the Commissioner of Human Rights of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
It is noted that Ukraine planned to visit the demarcation line together with the International Committee of the Red Cross in order to encourage it to obtain from Russia access to the colony in Olenivka in order to visit Ukrainian prisoners of war.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 8082323457
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 20 Okt, 2022 19:50
108 Orkistani sõjavangist pääsenud naiste lood
“Every morning, every evening we were beaten.”
“They bullied us as much as they could."
"They told us Ukraine forgot about us, and no one needs us."
108 Ukrainian women were released from Russian captivity. These are the experiences they had to live through.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta ... 2196626432
“Every morning, every evening we were beaten.”
“They bullied us as much as they could."
"They told us Ukraine forgot about us, and no one needs us."
108 Ukrainian women were released from Russian captivity. These are the experiences they had to live through.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta ... 2196626432
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 21 Okt, 2022 20:09
Kadõrovi tik-tokkeri 16 aastane poeg kinkis isale 3 UKR sõjavangi...
In this video from #Grozny, #Chechnya, south #Russia, 16-yo son of Chechnya head Ramzan Kadyrov is “gifting” to his father three Ukrainian POWs captured in #Ukraine.
If this is not a theatre but real life situation, this is modern slavery.
https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/statu ... 3826702338
In this video from #Grozny, #Chechnya, south #Russia, 16-yo son of Chechnya head Ramzan Kadyrov is “gifting” to his father three Ukrainian POWs captured in #Ukraine.
If this is not a theatre but real life situation, this is modern slavery.
https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/statu ... 3826702338
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 24 Okt, 2022 19:40
Mariuopoli kaitsmisel osalenud Azovi polgu staabiülem räägib orkistani vangistusest Gordonile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftQNaRD9xOA
The Guardianis lugu samast seltskonnast-Azovstalis olnud naispiirivalvurilt
Ahead, north, stood the Russian PoWs for whom she and the other women were, it seemed, being swapped – and free Ukraine. The freedom that Panina, a junior sergeant in the national border guard, had yearned while counting off the hours and endless days with 28 other women in a cell designed for four.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... are_btn_tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftQNaRD9xOA
The Guardianis lugu samast seltskonnast-Azovstalis olnud naispiirivalvurilt
Ahead, north, stood the Russian PoWs for whom she and the other women were, it seemed, being swapped – and free Ukraine. The freedom that Panina, a junior sergeant in the national border guard, had yearned while counting off the hours and endless days with 28 other women in a cell designed for four.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... are_btn_tw
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 26 Okt, 2022 14:54
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 28 Okt, 2022 20:23
Näidatakse ühe vangilaagri orkide olemisest ja tegemisest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA-_YPKagOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA-_YPKagOw
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 29 Okt, 2022 14:43
52 UKR sõjavangi sai vabaks
Another exchange of prisoners took place today. 52 Ukrainians returned home: officers, medics, sergeants and soldiers, — informed the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andrii Yermak
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 8771515394
Among them are:
12 soldiers of the NGU including two "Azovs"
18 - from the Navy
8 - from the BGSU
9 - from Territorial Defense Forces
3 - soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
2 - civilians.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 4479651840
Video ka
https://twitter.com/UkrArmyBlog/status/ ... 0853955584
Another exchange of prisoners took place today. 52 Ukrainians returned home: officers, medics, sergeants and soldiers, — informed the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andrii Yermak
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 8771515394
Among them are:
12 soldiers of the NGU including two "Azovs"
18 - from the Navy
8 - from the BGSU
9 - from Territorial Defense Forces
3 - soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
2 - civilians.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/statu ... 4479651840
Video ka
https://twitter.com/UkrArmyBlog/status/ ... 0853955584
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 30 Okt, 2022 17:52
VF veteranide kanal:
https://t.me/s/notes_veteransBelgorodi vangide teemal on palju arutelusid. Ma tõstatasin selle teema ja mul on midagi öelda.
Ei ole õige pidada sõjavange kangelasteks. Vangistuses ei ole midagi kangelaslikku. Vangistus on alati häbi ja alandus. Ei tasu võtta üle Ukraina natside kogemust, kes nimetavad oma sõjavange kangelasteks. See on vale tee. Me peame mõistma, et on kaks erinevat tegurit, mis mõjutavad suhtumist vangidesse.
1. Vabatahtlik allaandmine. See tähendab, et kui võitleja lõpetab lahingutegevuse ja annab vabatahtlikult alla, ilma et ta oleks ammendanud kõik võimalused võitlemiseks. See tegu on karistatav Venemaa Föderatsiooni kriminaalkoodeksi artikli 352.1 alusel vabatahtlik üleandmine (kehtestatud föderaalseadusega 24.09.2022 N 365-FZ). Sellist rikkumist karistatakse riigireetmise tunnuste puudumisel 3-10aastase vangistusega (praegu kuni 7 aastat). Sõjaväelane, kes esmakordselt vabatahtlikult kapituleerus, võib vältida kriminaalvastutust, kui ta võttis meetmeid oma vabastamiseks, pöördus tagasi teenistuspaika ja ei sooritanud vangistuse ajal muid kuritegusid.
2. Loobumine võitlusvõimetuse tõttu. See tähendab, et kui sõdur on ammendanud kõik vahendid vaenlase vastu võitlemiseks (laskemoona lõppemine, haavatud jne). Sellisel juhul ei ole kriminaalvastutusele võtmist ette nähtud.
Loomulikult tuleb tõstatada sõjavangide teema. Neid on vaja vahetada ja koju tuua. On sõdureid, kes täitsid oma sõjalist kohustust lõpuni ja sattusid vangi, olles kas haavatud või ammendanud oma võitlusvõime. Seejärel tuleb läbi viia uurimine, et teha kindlaks, kas nad loovutasid end tahtlikult või vabatahtlikult. Nagu seda tehti ka Teise maailmasõja ajal. Kuid ma kordan veel kord: sõjavangidest ei ole mingil juhul võimalik teha kangelasi. Vangistus on alati häbi ja alandus.
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 01 Nov, 2022 21:24
Briti sõjavang vangistusest
A British national held by Russia's forces in #Ukraine said he nearly starved to death in captivity. Shaun Pinner said he was only given "bread & water" about 50 of the days he was held. Over 5 months he was electrocuted, tasered, stabbed & pistol-whipped.
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 3449389057
A British national held by Russia's forces in #Ukraine said he nearly starved to death in captivity. Shaun Pinner said he was only given "bread & water" about 50 of the days he was held. Over 5 months he was electrocuted, tasered, stabbed & pistol-whipped.
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 3449389057
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 03 Nov, 2022 16:38
107 Ukraina sõjavangi, seehulgas 74 Azovstali kaitsjat õnnestus sõjavangide vahetuse käigus vabastada.
https://censor.net/en/photo_news/337812 ... ideophotos
https://censor.net/en/photo_news/337812 ... ideophotos
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 03 Nov, 2022 17:46
Huvitav kuidas neid azovlasi nii hulgi on tagasi vahetada õnnestunud? Alles valmistati mingit näidispoomise protsessi ette koos puuriga ja kategooriliselt välistati nende väljavahetamine. Kas kulisside taga toimub midagi mida me ei tea?
Re: Sõjavangide kohtlemine Vene-Ukraina sõjas
Postitatud: 05 Nov, 2022 13:01
Mariupoli lahingus vangi langenud raseda naismeediku lugu. Vangide vabastamisel sai ka Mamonova vabaks ja sünnitas tütre juba 4 päeva peale vabastamist.
Russia's baby barbarism. Ukrainian military medic Mariana Mamonova was captured in Mariupol. She was pregnant: Questioned by a Russian official. "He said if I don't answer the way he needs me to, he'll send me to a camp in
& my baby will be taken away."
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 2501803008
Russia's baby barbarism. Ukrainian military medic Mariana Mamonova was captured in Mariupol. She was pregnant: Questioned by a Russian official. "He said if I don't answer the way he needs me to, he'll send me to a camp in
& my baby will be taken away."https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status ... 2501803008