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Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 14 Sept, 2023 13:46
Postitas Kapten Trumm
Kas peale sama juhtumit (mida toona väga ei afisheeritud) hakkasid neid RC-135-sid saatma RAF Typhoonid Kürposelt, kutsungid olid enamsti Psycho 1 ja Psycho 2
Et venelastele asi oleks selgem, olin need eskordid ka flightradarist nähtavad.
Kuna venelaste lennukid kasutavad krüptovabu jaamasid, siis valetamine hästi ei õnnestu.
Olen netist kuulanud isegi ühte A-50 ja Su-27te vahelist raadiovestlust Soome lahe kohal, kus soome F-18 ilmus venelastele ootamatult sappa ja siis läks lahti suur sebimine, et kuskohast see nüüd tuli ja kirjutage pardanumber üles. Ja vaieldi veel, et kas see on F-18 või vahest ikka F-16.
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 14 Sept, 2023 14:06
Postitas kaugeltuuriv
Vene inforuumis on hakanud ilmuma juba uudiseid uuest NATO õppusest,mis on planeeritud järgmise aasta veebruaris-märtsis.Kiruvad seda,mis hirmus,ju siis tallatakse õige konnasilma peal.Nagu ma olen aru saanud,siis tegemist on NATO kiireageerimisjõudude suurõppusega,kus osaleb kokku 40000 meest.Õppus on sihtpärane ja harjutatakse NATO riigile appiminekut,venelased ise väidavad,et osa õppustest toimub nende piirilähedastel aladel.Ja enamgi veel,venelaste väitel olevat õppuste tsenaariumis mitte enam kallaletungija mingi müstiline riik vaid otseselt on agressoriks kirjutatud Venemaa.Ma ise seda juttu ei usu,tavaliselt otseselt riiki ei mainita.
Ise pole veel Eesti meedias infot näinud aga kas on võimalik,et osaliselt on õppustega seotud ka Eesti territoorium või hakatakse harjutama selle koridori hoidmist Leedu ja Poola vahel?
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 14 Sept, 2023 14:12
Postitas Kriku
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 14 Sept, 2023 14:55
Postitas Gideonic
davidsoniharald kirjutas: ↑14 Sept, 2023 12:30
Vedas orkidel roppu moodi. Muidu oleks nad kõik ühe loll-ivani pärast maa sisse tambitud.
Ausalt-öeldes väike kahtluseuss on, et see mitte lukustumine päris juhus ei olnud. Vaadates mis tüüpi lennukit sihiti ei välistaks ka mingit EW tegevust.
Võis muidugi ka rike olla. Esines mitmd raketi järjestikused tõrkeid ka Lääne lennukitel. Üks kuulsamaid on see mis juhtus F-15 vs Mig-25 Iraagis (kus Mig'idel oli ropult õnne):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurra_Air_Battle
Bigum would later admit he didn't notice the drift because he and his wing-man were determined to score a MiG kill.[3] Despite this, they still managed to achieve radar lock up on both as-Sammarai and Awad, and each fired a missile at them. Both missed. Bigum fired a second missile at Awad, but Awad landed his aircraft before the missile arrived. Bigum fired again at as-Sammarai as he was on his final landing approach, but Bigum lost the radar lock as as-Sammarai landed and the missile impacted the ground about 10 ft (3 m) from as-Sammarai's left wingtip. Bigum and Broome egressed the area before they could be shot down by surface-to-air missiles, which were still targeting them.[2][4]
Sellest ka väga hea dokk tehtud, kahjuks tasuline (kanali muud videod ka YTs, soovitan!):
https://nebula.tv/videos/mustard-eagle- ... ir-battle/
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 14 Sept, 2023 16:54
Postitas ruger
Bulgaaria konsulteerib NATO-ga, et mida teha orkistani poolt kehtestatud piirangutega (plaanitud sõjaväeõppus seal) Mustal merel Bulgaaria majandustsoonis.
Bulgaria is consulting with #NATO allies on responses to Russia's actions in the Black Sea, including a blockade of Bulgaria's economic zone, Euractiv reported.
Russia has declared a part of the Bulgarian economic zone in the Black Sea closed to shipping due to military exercises. Bulgarian Defense Minister Todor #Tagarev called such actions a provocation.
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1702257016721359084
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2023 11:02
Postitas kaugeltuuriv
Tundub olema jah seesama,tänud.
Kuidas selle majandusvõõndiga on,kas ikka päris tohib teise riigi majandusvõõndis õppusi pidada.Kas oskab keegi asja seletada juriidilises võtmes?
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2023 11:37
Postitas Kilo Tango
kaugeltuuriv kirjutas: ↑15 Sept, 2023 11:02
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Kuidas selle majandusvõõndiga on,kas ikka päris tohib teise riigi majandusvõõndis õppusi pidada.Kas oskab keegi asja seletada juriidilises võtmes?
Paistab, et rahvusvaheline mereõigus seda tegelikult ei reguleeri. Lobarobot vastas nii:
Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ):
Definition: The EEZ extends 200 nautical miles from a country's coastline. Within this zone, the coastal state has special rights to explore and exploit, as well as conserve and manage natural resources, both living and non-living, in the water column and on and under the seabed.
Sovereign Rights: While the coastal state has sovereign rights for the purpose of exploring, exploiting, conserving, and managing natural resources in its EEZ, it does not have full sovereignty over the area. This means that other states have certain freedoms in the EEZ, such as freedom of navigation and overflight.
Military Exercises in Another Country's EEZ:
Freedom of Navigation: UNCLOS recognizes the freedom of navigation, which means that ships of all states enjoy the right of innocent passage through territorial seas, and there is freedom of navigation beyond the territorial sea and in the EEZ. This means that military vessels of one state can navigate through the EEZ of another state.
Military Activities: The issue of conducting military exercises in another country's EEZ is a contentious one. UNCLOS does not explicitly prohibit military activities in the EEZs, but it requires states to have due regard for the rights and duties of the coastal state. Some countries interpret this to mean that military exercises or surveillance activities without the consent of the coastal state infringe upon its rights. Others argue that these are part of the freedom of navigation and are therefore permitted.
Diplomatic Tensions: Even if military exercises in another country's EEZ might be technically permissible under UNCLOS, they can lead to diplomatic tensions. The coastal state might view such exercises as a threat or an act of aggression, even if they are intended as routine or defensive in nature.
Notification and Communication: Some argue that, as a matter of courtesy and to prevent misunderstandings, states conducting military exercises in another's EEZ should notify the coastal state in advance. This is not a requirement under UNCLOS, but it can help in building trust and avoiding potential conflicts.
Disputes: If a coastal state believes its rights in its EEZ are being violated by another state's military activities, it can seek peaceful dispute resolution mechanisms provided under UNCLOS. This might include negotiation, mediation, or arbitration.
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Ühesõnaga - ei ole viisakas, aga keelatud otseslt ei ole.
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2023 11:44
Postitas Kriku

military exercises in other countries economic zone
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2023 18:30
Postitas mart2
Siis võiks Bulgaria lähiajal teha õppuse Krimmi või Novorossiiski juures!

Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2023 19:39
Postitas salusoft
Vist siia teemasse:
Rumeenia on olenevalt "ohutasemest" valmis kasutama Venemaa droonide vastu õhutõrjesüsteeme ja kasutab riigi territooriumi kaitsmiseks "kogu sõjalist jõudu", teatas kaitsestaabi ülema asetäitja kindral Gheorghiță Vlad. Samuti saatis Rumeenia armee Ukraina piirile Doonau delta piirkonda 600 sõdurit ja radarid.
„Otsustasime lähetada umbes 600 sõdurit, et tugevdada oma kaitseliini Dobrudža põhjaosas. Võtsime kasutusele mõned radarid, kaitse on aktiveeritud ja arutasime oma liitlaspartneritega (NATO), et leida lahendusi Venemaa agressioonile vastu seista," ütles kindral Vlad Rootsi telejaamale antud intervjuus. Küsimusele, kas Rumeenia kasutab oma õhutõrjesüsteeme Venemaa droonide vastu, teatas kindral: "Sõltuvalt ohu tasandist oleme valmis kasutama kogu sõjalist jõudu Rumeenia territooriumi kaitsmiseks". Kaitseministeerium otsustas neljapäeval, 14. septembril piirata lende Ukraina piiril asuvas Põhja-Dobrogea õhuruumis. Teade tuli kontekstis, kus sama ministeerium otsustas rajada kaks õhutõrjevarjendit Plauru-Ceatalchioi piirkonda, kuhu on viimastel päevadel langenud vähemalt kolm Vene armee drooni pärast intensiivseid rünnakuid Ukraina taristule Doonau sadamates.
https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate ... ul-2506707
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 18 Sept, 2023 10:54
Postitas ruger
Ka Bulgaaria rannikule kukkus alla lõhkekehaga droon
A drone with a bomb crashed on the #Bulgarian coast
Bulgarian National Radio reports that the drone crashed into rocks near the village of Tyulenovo, 70 km from the border with #Romania and across the sea from #Crimea.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1703683295685337597
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 20 Sept, 2023 9:55
Postitas ruger
Rumeenia sadamalinnas sõitis kaubalaev meremiinile
The cargo ship Seama has hit a naval mine in the Romanian port of Sulina.
12 crew members are being evacuated by the Romanian rescue services.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1 ... 7524440232
Täpsustatult toimus intsident merel, mitte sadamas
Seama was at anchor at Danube anchorage when this occurred.
Drifting Soviet era YaM mines have been a problem since the early days of the war, but luckily very few merchant ships have been struck.
Both Russia and Ukraine had stocks of YaM's so attribution will be difficult.
https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/statu ... 7815173220
Video päästetud meremeestest
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1 ... 9028667438
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 23 Sept, 2023 14:13
Postitas hjl85
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 01 Okt, 2023 13:26
Postitas ruger
orkid tegelevad aktiivselt GPS-i segamisega Mustal merel.
Romania’s Defense Ministry reveals that Russia is waging electronic warfare against Romania.
Daniel Petrescu, the Army Chief of Staff of Romania, says Russia is “actively & constantly” jamming GPS communications of ships in Romanian waters, increasing the risk of collisions.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1 ... 9838919717
Re: NATO artikkel 5
Postitatud: 12 Okt, 2023 17:42
Postitas ruger
NATO-l toimub järgmine nädal tuumarelva omavate üksuste õppus
NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg announced the start of annual exercises of NATO nuclear forces next week
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta ... 6021005481
Tegu siis Vahemere ääres toimuva õppusega
NATO's nuclear deterrence exercise in the Mediterranean will soon take place.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that next week the North Atlantic Alliance will hold a large-scale nuclear deterrence exercise, Steadfast Noon, in the Mediterranean region.
Although the exercise is annual, the allies will take into account the circumstances surrounding Russia's war against Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/Heroiam_Slava/statu ... 3766071363