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Siin Norras on venelaste palgal kaks erakonda,Rødt(ehk siis stalinistlikud kommud) ja SV(Sotsialistisk Venstreparti,nad peavad ennast modernseteks kommudeks).
Kahe peale kokku on neil ca.4-5 prossa toetust.Eelmise valitsuses oleku ajal tegi SV ennast nii täis,et hetkel kõigub 2-3 prossa vahel ja need stalinistid on 1,5 prossa peal.
Need kes seal plakatitega lehvitasid olid Rødti seltskonnast,mingid noormalevlased.
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See on moskalite tavaline taktika et toetatakse vasakut ja paremat äärmust ehk kasulikke lolle kes siis vajadusel kohalikus keeles moskalite asja ajaks. Soomes oli ka mingi kohalike käsilaste "meeleavaldus" moskalite toetuseks kus esinesid kümmekond kohalike vasakpoolsete aktivisti. Nende äärmuslaste tegelik toetus on nii väike et suuremates keskustes saavad volikogusse paar kohta. Parlamendi jaoks toetust ei jätku.
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Rootsi valitsuse kannapööre Karlshamni sadama kasutuse osas Nordstreami rajamiseks.

http://arileht.delfi.ee/news/uudised/ro ... d=77077296
Errare humanum est-aga veel inimlikum on selle teise kraesse väänamine...
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Gotlandist suhteliselt kaugel, tõenäoliselt polegi seal mingit erilist julgeolekuriski.

Poliitiliselt on see muidugi huvitav samm.
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Rootsi testib kõigi oma 28 500 politseiniku sõjalist valmisolekut??? Google translate Rootsi keelest.
All staff within the police shall promptly war placed - after orders from the national police chief Dan Eliasson.

In the event of a crisis or war, any police officer to know his role.

- Our employees are expected to appear for duty in the event of heightened alert or war, says Julia Simryd the National Operations Department.

The employees of the police were informed of the decision in late January.

According to the statement, all staff promptly war placed the "service of high alert and war."
"Expected to appear"

The decision affects 28 500 people have been taken by the national police chief Dan Eliasson.

- It is true that the Chief of Police decided that all the staff of the Police Authority should war be placed within the authority, says Julia Simryd, emergency management officers at police national operational department.

In practice, the police employees to get a war placing orders which states "where and when to set up the service, in the event of war or heightened alert".

- It means that our employees are expected to appear for duty in the event of heightened alert or war, says Julia Simryd.

She states that the starting point is that most police employees should war be placed where they work everyday. At the same time, there is a not insignificant number of police officers who may already be war placed in another agency, such as the Armed Forces. In those cases, an individual assessment is made when no person shall have more than one war position.
"Trained to handle situations"

For the part of the police's job now is to ensure that the Authority does not drain on staff in the event of crisis.

- We are keen to war to place our staff as it ensures that we can perform our tasks at any location of the heightened alert and war, says Julia Simryd.

Malena Britz, a researcher at the National Defence University, describes the measures are part of a larger effort to rehabilitate the total defense that has been avsomnat since the Cold War.

- It's about to prepare and think about how the social structure should look like if it gets heightened alert, or if you need to mobilize. In the case of the police so they're trained and trained to handle situations that ordinary people are not living. Probably we will see this happen in other authorities, says Malena Britz.
"A threat from Russia"

Action on war position has its background in a government decision from the end of 2015, when several agencies were instructed to resume planning for their preparedness. The reason for the government decision was the deteriorating security situation in Europe - where the Russian aggression in Ukraine was pointed out as the most central.

One part of contingency planning is precisely the war investments that are now required in the police.

- The need to show that you have a preparedness has increased, and it depends mainly on what they perceive as a threat from Russia. They perceive that Sweden is a pawn in a larger geopolitical game and talk therefore about to raise the threshold for different scenarios, says Malena Britz.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Kxw ... stalla-sig
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:o Issand, nii palju politseid seal. Soomes on ainult umbes 7000.
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Meil peaks olema ligi 3000. Kümme korda suurema elanikkonna puhul ei tundugi niivõrd ulme.
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Soomes on üle 7000 politseiniku ja lisaks 2000 kontoriametnikku. Politseinike arvu peetakse liiga väikeseks. Piisavaks peetakse 7500 politseinikku. Rootslased ilmselt teevad seaduse et kriisi korral peavad kõik politseinikud jääma peamiselt oma tööle edasi ja nende puhul kes on ka armee reservis otsustatakse eraldi kumb neist on tähtsam ülesanne. Igati mõistlik igasugu hübriidohtude korral. Eesti ppas on 5000 inimest kellest ligi 2000 valvavad piiri ja tegelevad passidega.
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Laupäeval tuli siin raadiost uudis,et Norra tellib kodumaistelt tootjatelt Kongsberg ja Nammo kaitseotstarbelist varustust eritellimusena summas miljard Norra krooni eest.
Vastav ettepanek on saanud heakskiidu parlamendi kaitsekomisjonilt ja läheb tagasi valitsuse lauale heakskiitmiseks.
Nammo(endine Kongelig Patronfabrikk) hetkel modeb Norra Leopard tanke,sisuliselt vahetatakse need täielikult välja.Uus mootor,kahur,elektroonika.See tellimus minu arvates ei ole selle erakorralise tehingu osa,sest on ammu planeeritud.
Ettevõte toodab ka laskemoona,mürske ja pomme.Pakun,et osa sellest toodangust läheb lisatellimusse.
Kongsbergi kõige kuulsam toodng on vahest elektroonilised seadmed sõjatehnikasse ja keskmaa õhutõrje ning rannakaitseraketid.Tundub,et Põhja-Norra kindlustamiseks hakatakse tegema lisavarustust just selles osas.Võimalik,et hinna sees on ka F-35 laskemoon,lennukid peaks hakkama saabuma sellel aastal.
Pakuks,et ka need Korea liikurhaubitsad on nimekirjas(võimalik,et sellest ka see laskemoonatellimus).
Järgmise aasta eelarvesse pidid aga jõudma ka see pikalt räägitud allveelaevade vahetuse programm(olen täitsa kindel,et need vanemad müüakse maha) ning ka soovitakse aktiviseerida uuesti see stealth tüüpi hävitaja klassi laevade tootmine,mille seisatas kunagi Stoltenberg(liiga kallis ja meil pole seda vaja,kuna elame rahus,bla bla bla).
Lisan siia veel,et täna sain rääkida töökaaslasega,kelle mees töötab Nammos.Daami sõnul on Nammo nüüd täispingega tööl,tehakse isegi ületunde ning jah nagu pakkusin on laskemoonaliin täie rauaga tööle lastud.
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Norra õppuseid jälle külastanud tundmatud droonid(Google translate veidi vigane soomekeele tõlge)
over Tromsø in Northern Norway has been observed this week, a number of unidentified drones, says. The Norwegian Defence Forces held the area at the same time a war exercise.
- We take this seriously, says Brigadier Eldar Berli NRK for.
Norwegian Armed Forces exercise ended on Friday. This is not the first time that the armed forces observe the unidentified flying model during the training sessions. observations were made.
- The number of incidents is a two-digit. It includes, as well as our own observations that the observations made by the civilians, says Berli.
Norwegian defense forces did not attempt to drop the drones. However, Berli as a possible, if the visits continue. He did not want to guess who urkkii information about the exercises drones.
- There are many possibilities. Regardless of who the matter is, it's dangerous. First of all, it is illegal to observe military exercises, if it is intended to UAVs, Berli notes.
- Second, we control the air space above the harjoituksiemme in order to avoid collisions. We can not do it if you exercise in our region, there are other parties.
Berli explains the exercise otherwise have gone well.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9455004
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Rootsis toimumas 10-s ootamatu lahinguvalmiduse kontroll
10th unannounced emergency readiness test in Sweden since July 2016. Brigade was alerted on Monday.

During the week, additional unannounced emergency control implemented. The check covered the operational transport, settling battle task management and collaboration. This time it was the second brigade headquarters with associated management units that were subject to control in the vicinity of Uddevalla.

On Monday started the emergency control of an operational transport of the dressing to a shooting range outside Uddevalla. Once in place, they had established connection with both the senior manager directly subordinate managers. During the week, the dressing practiced to solve their combat tasks, tactical management at brigade level and cooperation with the military regional headquarters and the Home Guard in the Western Military Region.

- This is incredibly important, it allows us to increase operational performance. We solve our task and it creates a trust for all involved in the joint, said brigade chief Colonel Stefan Sandborg
The brigade will be able to independently solve combat tasks with their own abilities and with a high degree of mission tactics.

- The Government has stated in the defense strategic decision (the defense in June 2015, the red note.) That the security situation in our immediate surroundings deteriorated in recent years. To conduct an unannounced emergency control of other brigade headquarters is a way for us to test the dressing on the requirements we have set, and ultimately the government has on us regarding our ability to solve the demands made tasks and to increase our operational capacity, said Major General Berndt Grundevik, deputy head for the Armed Forces' operational command.
http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuell ... gadstaben/
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/statu ... 9103421441

Vene firma tahab osta Gotlandil olevat endist Rootsi allveelaevade sadamat. Kogu teksti ei õnnestunud kopeerida tõlkimisel.
Di can reveal that there is a Russian bidder on the submarine harbor on Gotland, the Swedish government is negotiating to buy back. According to Di's sources, it Saaboligarken Vladimir Antonov. His company also leads the bidding.

"The deal will be completed next week, then I have to decide. This is perishable, I can not let the other stakeholders wait, "said the financier Joachim Kuylenstierna.

It's his company that owns Skälsö Naval shipyard with submarine port of Fårösund. During the cold war the plant was protected and a strategic part of Sweden's defense. In the 1980s sounded to dig out a submarine port. There is no other submarine harbor on Gotland. The defense calls the old center of the Marine Harbour.

Joachim Kuylenstierna bought the plant in 2004 when cheap all parliamentary parties agreed to scrap invasion defense. Today it is clear that the decision was not only naive but also expensive for taxpayers.

At the end of last year invited Joachim Kuylenstierna out port to sales. And it looks to be a rock for real estate millionaire.

According to Di's sources are military leaders and the government deeply concerned. During the negotiations the last few weeks it has emerged that there are two bidders who submitted substantially higher bid than Fortifications Agency and the Armed Forces.

"I have three stakeholders of which the defense is. I'm expecting really just on defense who say they want it, but they are so tough in the process. The other two stakeholders are two foreign companies, "says Joachim Kuylenstierna.

From which countries?
"I can not tell you."

But according to DI's sources, Joachim Kuylenstierna himself having stated in negotiations that one of the bidders is Vladimir Antonov and the Russian miljardärens companies are ready to pay 82 million. The defense and the Swedish Fortifications Agency believes that the plant is worth 10-15 million.

That Russian interests are trying to take over a submarine harbor on Gotland is political dynamite, and the name of the bidder a nightmare. The question is whether Vladimir Antonov, acting on its own behalf or decoy for the other forces? In Sweden he is best known for having tried to take over Saab Automobile. He was stopped by the Reinfeldt government and General Motors after a thorough background check that should have questioned his business and contacts.

Whatever the motive or client, when the Russian billionaire is now getting into the game of submarine harbor the effect that he jack up the price of the Swedish government.

The commander Micael Bydén has given a clear mandate.

"The Armed Forces have asked Fortifikationsverket to buy the port," said Philip Simon, Head of the Armed Forces.

How important is the harbor - this is part of the Defence Forces build on Gotland of a permanent presence?
"I do not want to go into detail in the current situation. We have a need to have access to the port, so I can say. "

Joachim Kuylenstierna choose not to comment on Di's tasks.

I have information that Vladimir Antonov, his affiliates, is one of the speculators?
"Have you heard that? It was exciting, "he says.

What is the highest bid on?
"I can not reveal either the price or who the others are."

According to Di experiencing Joachim Kuylenstierna offered Armed Forces and the Swedish Fortifications Agency middle ground - to rent the facility for 4 million per year for six years and then buy the property for around 50 million.

Financier have supported the former Minister Bjorn Rosengren in talks with the Swedish Fortifications Agency. Agency representing extremely Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist. It is thus in practice two top names in the Social Democrats on either side of the negotiating table.

Parallel going to the talks with Vladimir Antonov last.

The third bidder, another foreign company, bid 65 million. Joachim Kuylenstierna notes that the harbor with buildings cost half a billion to build.

"There are at reasonable levels we discuss with all three buyers for what it has cost," he says.

What buyers do you prefer?
"I would prefer that the defense is there, sooner or later, they need the port. It was stupid that they sold. "

"I think it's a mental thing that you have to come back and that you regret that you sold, but the world was different then, and a lot of water has flowed under the bridges. The defense must understand that the area is more attractive today, and more expensive. "

Fortifications Agency calls for more negotiations.

"He sells on their own terms, he possesses all the information. No one knows who is the speculators. He says there are three bidders, we and two foreign. I can confirm that there is one and it is us ", says Johan Danielsson, Press Manager at the Swedish Fortifications Agency.

He admits that the state sold cheap, but it was a political decision. Joachim Kuylenstierna bought when the entire old KA3, including Mari harbor, 18 m from the state company Reed Auditorium.
http://www.di.se/nyheter/ryss-tar-striden-om-ubatshamn/
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Sellest Gotlandi allveelaevade sadamast kirjutab ka Äripäev.
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2017/02/2 ... de-sadamat
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Norra keelas sõjaväeõppuste aladel droonide lennutamise.
http://www.altaposten.no/nyheter/2017/0 ... um=twitter
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Gotlandi baasi ja allveelaevade sadama müük 2004. a demilitariseerimise hulluses on hea näide, kuidas ei tohi asju ajada. Tagantjärele tarkusena võib öelda, et konservatiivsed eestlased ja soomlased, kes igasugu patsifistlike tarkpeade viginast hoolimata säilitasid ajateenistusel põhineva reservarmee, olid õigel teel. Rootslaste kaitsevõime on tänase seisuga hale vari sellest, mis varem oli, kaadriüksustesse sõdurite leidmine on olnud kogu aeg keeruline, sest soovijaid ei ole piisavalt. Õnneks mereväel ja õhuväel on natuke parem olukord, kuid maavägedega on väga kehvasti.

Kui tekib oht, et Gotlandi sadam läheb venelaste kontrolli alla, siis tuleb korraldada sundkorras tagasiostmine Rootsi riigile, sest süvasadam Gotlandil annaks venelastele võimaluse oma allveelaevu Läänemerel toetada ja kergendaks oluliselt Gotlandi vallutamist vajadusel, põhimõtteliselt saaks kaubalaevaga merejalaväelaste üksuse otse sadamasse saata.
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Rootsi on kaalumas ajateenistuse taastamist nii meestele , kui naistele
Sweden deciding to return conscription. For men and women both.
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/statu ... 8221583360
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-200000511 ... c6b88ce937
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