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Tallinn M1923 Submachine Gun

Postitatud: 17 Dets, 2008 8:34
Postitas Animal
Hello, or tere everyone! I've been a member here for 3 years and finally got around to posting. I will admit most of the reason it's taken me so long is because my Estonian is a bit lacking- I'm in the United States.

Anyway, I've been looking for any photos or information on the Tallinn M1923 submachine gun, which was apparently the only gun ever designed or made in Estonia, and figured this was the obvious place to ask. Any information anyone can furnish will be more than appreciated. THANKS, or AITAH!!!!

Postitatud: 17 Dets, 2008 12:08
Postitas lamjak
As far as I know, there are several guns designed and built in Estonia.
However, as far as I know, SMG named Tallinn M1923 is only featured in french Wikipedia as a licensed clone of MP18:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maschinenpistole_18

But in this topic:
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=658
there is detailed history of creation of a SMG, that had no certain designation. Police used designation E.P. (Estonian SMG), Defence Forces had PK (SMG) and Defence League called it A.T. (Arsenal-Tallinn as it was built by factory named Arsenal in the city of Tallinn). It was similar to MP18, but had several features borrowed from Madsen LMG and some original modifications. It used 9x20SR cartridges, unlike MP18, which had 9x19 or 7,65x21 (Para).
A total of 565 went into service, which were sold in 1937 to an arms dealer named Tschudnowsky along with other weaponry. Officially, the weapons were supposed to be shipped to Bangkok, but went to Spain instead.

There is more information in that topic, this is just some I quickly translated.

Postitatud: 18 Dets, 2008 15:52
Postitas Animal
lamjak kirjutas:As far as I know, there are several guns designed and built in Estonia.
However, as far as I know, SMG named Tallinn M1923 is only featured in french Wikipedia as a licensed clone of MP18:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maschinenpistole_18

But in this topic:
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=658
there is detailed history of creation of a SMG, that had no certain designation. Police used designation E.P. (Estonian SMG), Defence Forces had PK (SMG) and Defence League called it A.T. (Arsenal-Tallinn as it was built by factory named Arsenal in the city of Tallinn). It was similar to MP18, but had several features borrowed from Madsen LMG and some original modifications. It used 9x20SR cartridges, unlike MP18, which had 9x19 or 7,65x21 (Para).
A total of 565 went into service, which were sold in 1937 to an arms dealer named Tschudnowsky along with other weaponry. Officially, the weapons were supposed to be shipped to Bangkok, but went to Spain instead.

There is more information in that topic, this is just some I quickly translated.
Aitah!!