Vagneri bande
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Sasa Kurara nimetas oma pöördumises Wagneri juhti Prigozinit p_deks (homoks) ja kõiki neid kes lähevad Wagneri lipu alla võitlema samuti. Kas selle asja mõte on selles, et Wagner enam ei suudaks värvata Venemaa kolooniatest vange? Venemaal on see homovärk "õrn teema".
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28.11. olevat Wagneri Bossangoa baas KAV-is puruks pommitatud "tundmatu lennuki poolt"...
https://twitter.com/casusbellii/status/ ... 3333126144
Justkui oleks Prantsusmaa asjaga seotud...
https://twitter.com/casusbellii/status/ ... 3333126144
Justkui oleks Prantsusmaa asjaga seotud...
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See Kurara video tekitab furoori jah, ja 205. brigaadi kanal väidab, et see video läks tema kaudu liikvele. Wagner on praeguseks nii võimas, et Kurara peaks igaks juhuks üle õla vaatama küll. Kiidab, et Prigožin isiklikult imes teda jne, selline jutt ei jää vist enam karistuseta. Ja kiidab, et Kiievis on kõik kena, elektrit on, ja et õigel ajal tuleb valida õige pool elus.kaupo51 kirjutas: ↑28 Nov, 2022 22:34 Sasa Kurara nimetas oma pöördumises Wagneri juhti Prigozinit p_deks (homoks) ja kõiki neid kes lähevad Wagneri lipu alla võitlema samuti. Kas selle asja mõte on selles, et Wagner enam ei suudaks värvata Venemaa kolooniatest vange? Venemaal on see homovärk "õrn teema".
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu ... 7798627328
https://t.me/mototroopers_205/685
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"Kriminaalne autoriteet" Saša Kurara pöördub videos "seadusliku varga" Griša Moskovski poole. Ma saan aru, et see Kurara baseerus Kiievis ja Moskovski ilmselt elab väljapool Ukrainat kuskil Hollandis (isiklik telegrammikanal on varasemast ajast kanepivideosid täis: https://t.me/s/grmoskov70 ) aga käib vahepeal Lvivis. Prigožin sattus eeluurimisvanglasse juba 18 aastaselt ja vangi mõisteti pikaks ajaks 20 aastaselt. Kerge NSVL-i vanglas nii noorel kindlasti polnud.NGolf kirjutas: ↑29 Nov, 2022 18:54See Kurara video tekitab furoori jah, ja 205. brigaadi kanal väidab, et see video läks tema kaudu liikvele. Wagner on praeguseks nii võimas, et Kurara peaks igaks juhuks üle õla vaatama küll. Kiidab, et Prigožin isiklikult imes teda jne, selline jutt ei jää vist enam karistuseta. Ja kiidab, et Kiievis on kõik kena, elektrit on, ja et õigel ajal tuleb valida õige pool elus.kaupo51 kirjutas: ↑28 Nov, 2022 22:34 Sasa Kurara nimetas oma pöördumises Wagneri juhti Prigozinit p_deks (homoks) ja kõiki neid kes lähevad Wagneri lipu alla võitlema samuti. Kas selle asja mõte on selles, et Wagner enam ei suudaks värvata Venemaa kolooniatest vange? Venemaal on see homovärk "õrn teema".
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu ... 7798627328
https://t.me/mototroopers_205/685
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Arestovitš selgitas, miks nad paljastasid "Putini koka" sündsusetu saladuse
https://www.9tv.co.il/item/51958
lisaks :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZysM6E ... 0%90%D0%9D
videol 1198 kommentaari???
https://www.9tv.co.il/item/51958
lisaks :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZysM6E ... 0%90%D0%9D
videol 1198 kommentaari???
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Youtube videos arutati, et milline saab nüüd olema Prigozini vastus sellele väitele, et ta oli vanglas allalastu. Eks tal on raske minna ka uuesti vanglasse värbama, sest seal võidakse teda pehmelt öeldes sõimama hakata. Lisaks suhted Venemaa "silovikkidega" (jõustruktuuride esindajatega). Kas need tahavad tulevikus sellist meest nagu Prigozin kätelda? See maailm pidi pooleldi olema kriminaalse taustaga.
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Wagner alustas kinnipeetavate värbamisega Kesk Aafrika Vabariigi vanglatest
ЧВК Вагнера начала вербовку заключенных в тюрьмах ЦАР
https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1 ... 8885376000
ЧВК Вагнера начала вербовку заключенных в тюрьмах ЦАР
https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1 ... 8885376000
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Ja siis on see pilt netis liikumas kus Prigozin Putinile toitu serveerib. Paneb kukalt sügama, kui mõtled kuidas meil Viru vanglas vangid keeldusid toidu vastuvõtmisest ja söömisest, sest toidujagaja oli neile nende hierarhias vastuvõetamatul positsioonil. Mis positsioonile see Putini asetab?
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Delfis on jutuajamine inimõiguslase Olga Romanovaga. Tasuline artikkel.
https://epl.delfi.ee/artikkel/120107620 ... suaalsuses
Räägitakse ka vangide värbamisest. Paar tsitaati artiklist.
Hiljuti tulid uudised, et Wagner võtab enda ridadesse kinnipeetavaid kõige madalamast Vene vangide kastist ehk nn allalastuid. Prigožin lükkas selle väite ümber. Kas Wagnerisse võetakse tõepoolest absoluutselt kõiki?
Meil on hulgaliselt teateid sellest, et alates sügisest võetakse sõdima ka kõige madalamaid vangide kategooriaid, seal hulgas „allalastuid“. Nendest moodustatakse eraldi üksuseid, nad ei sõdi üksustes, kus võitlevad tavalised kinnipeetavad. Praegu võetakse ilma igasuguste piiranguteta, neist moodustatakse eraldi barakkides eraldi üksused. Võib öelda, et Prigožin teab ja austab vanglatraditsioone.
Kas nende üksuste jaoks on mingi eraldi nimetus?
Ma ei tea nimetustest, kuid olen kindel, et neid nimetatakse „kukeroodudeks“, „allalastute rühmadeks“ jne. Põhiliselt „kukeroodudeks“.
https://epl.delfi.ee/artikkel/120107620 ... suaalsuses
Räägitakse ka vangide värbamisest. Paar tsitaati artiklist.
Hiljuti tulid uudised, et Wagner võtab enda ridadesse kinnipeetavaid kõige madalamast Vene vangide kastist ehk nn allalastuid. Prigožin lükkas selle väite ümber. Kas Wagnerisse võetakse tõepoolest absoluutselt kõiki?
Meil on hulgaliselt teateid sellest, et alates sügisest võetakse sõdima ka kõige madalamaid vangide kategooriaid, seal hulgas „allalastuid“. Nendest moodustatakse eraldi üksuseid, nad ei sõdi üksustes, kus võitlevad tavalised kinnipeetavad. Praegu võetakse ilma igasuguste piiranguteta, neist moodustatakse eraldi barakkides eraldi üksused. Võib öelda, et Prigožin teab ja austab vanglatraditsioone.
Kas nende üksuste jaoks on mingi eraldi nimetus?
Ma ei tea nimetustest, kuid olen kindel, et neid nimetatakse „kukeroodudeks“, „allalastute rühmadeks“ jne. Põhiliselt „kukeroodudeks“.
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Bandega seotud rühmituse juht esineb.
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1076478/vene-ne ... fot-jagama
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1076478/vene-ne ... fot-jagama
On mõnitanud Ukraina sõdurite surnukehasid, eputanud sotsiaalmeedias kutsika tapmisega. Olevat ka Süürias tegutsenud. Artikli lõpus jutustab:Kahe aasta eest ühes Venemaa rahvuslaste YouTube'i kanalis ilmunud kaadritel räägib Aleksei Miltšakov ka sellest, millist rahuldust pakub talle tapmine. „Peaksite saama aru, et kui tapad inimese, tunned jahipidamise erutust,“ kiidab ta. „Kui te pole kunagi jahil käinud, peaksite proovima. See on põnev.“
Ilmselt blufib. Tahaks pigem olla nagu Kadörov, kes teatud tungide ärkamisel võib enda valdustes suvalise alama tänavalt kinni võtta ja keldrisse viia, et teda siis seal piinata?„Olen alati püüelnud millegi suurema poole, et inimesed mind kuulaksid ning järgneksid mulle Vene ideaalini jõudmisel. Ning see Vene ideaal on väga lihtne: tuua siia maailma valgust ja rahu.“
Vaatame siis, mis siin toimub...
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Prigošin kinkis kuvaldaga teise tapnud tegelasele uue pühendusega kuvalda, koos soovidega treenida uute vahenditega kõvasti.
Prigozhin honors the hammer killer of the #PMC "Wagner"- defector "Evgeniy Nuzhin" with a
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/ ... 4259784705
Prigozhin brought a sledgehammer to a Wagner base in Krasnodar region, Russia.
"I brought you a new development. You need to think through training so all the personnel is able to use it".
New Year's gift from a sadist?..
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta ... 6083400705
Prigozhin honors the hammer killer of the #PMC "Wagner"- defector "Evgeniy Nuzhin" with a
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/ ... 4259784705
Prigozhin brought a sledgehammer to a Wagner base in Krasnodar region, Russia.
"I brought you a new development. You need to think through training so all the personnel is able to use it".
New Year's gift from a sadist?..
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta ... 6083400705
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
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Live for nothing or die for something.
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Suri orkide propagandist, kes oli seotud Vene ajakirjanike tapmisega KAV-is. Ajakirjanikud läksid 2018 aastal uurima KAV-i seal olevat väljaõppekeskust, kus õpetasid Wagneri võitlejad välja kohalike.
Умер пропагандист пригожинского РИА ФАН Кирилл Романовский, причастный к убийству российских журналистов в ЦАР
https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1 ... 1859193856
https://theins.ru/news/258321
Died "war correspondent" RIA FAN Kirill Romanovsky. This was announced by the owner of the publication, "Putin's chef" Yevgeny Prigozhin. Previously, Romanovsky claimed that he was diagnosed with brain cancer and that he underwent surgery.
Romanovsky is known for bringing Russian journalists Orkhan Dzhemal, Alexander Rastorguev and Kirill Radchenko to the Central African Republic with a man who lured them into a trap where they were shot. This happened on July 30, 2018 near the city of Sibut, not far from the capital of the Central African Republic - Bangui. Journalists turned to Romanovsky on a tip from pro-Kremlin commentator Abbas Juma. Romanovsky gave journalists the contacts of a local guide (fixer), known as "Martin". This “Martin”, in correspondence with journalists, insisted that he was in the city of Bambari, where communication was poor, and therefore he could not call them, but only correspond via WhatsApp (no one heard his voice). It was "Martin" who organized the car, the driver of which, as it turned out, was in contact with the gendarmerie. And it was on the way to Bambari to meet with "Martin" that the journalists were killed. Both Central African numbers - Martin and Bienvenue Nduvokama - turned out to be registered on false documents, the Dossier Center found out. At the same time, in reality, the connection in Bambari is working properly, and “Martin” himself, judging by the billing, has been in Bangui (the capital of the Central African Republic) all this time and has not left it. Investigators from the Dossier Center came to the conclusion that there was no Martin fixer at all, and this whole story was a pre-planned provocation.
In a conversation with The Insider, Romanovsky insisted that he had nothing to do with the murder of journalists, and that the fixer named "Martin" was indeed a real person and his acquaintance, but he could not explain some inconsistencies. So, for example, why did he enter the number of “Martin” into the database of his telephone contacts only two days after he handed it over to the employees of the “Investigation Management Center”.
In addition, The Insider studied his publicly available search queries for July 2018. Some of them point to a high probability of his involvement in the murder of Dzhemal, Rastorguev and Radchenko. For example, Romanovsky googles “russes a bangui” on July 31 at 12:00, five hours before the first reports of the murder. On the same day, he googles “article 105” (murder), although in a conversation with The Insider he explained this by saying that he was interested in the news about the Khachaturian sisters who killed their father (this was indeed the main topic of the news on July 30 and 31). Judging by the history of the browser, towards the evening of the same day, he rereads his correspondence with Kirill Radchenko, immediately after which he suddenly becomes interested in the question of how to clear the phone's memory. Recall why he suddenly became interested in the issue of deleting information from the phone at that moment Romanovsky could not.
https://theins-ru.translate.goog/news/2 ... x_tr_hl=et
Vanem lugu, milles 3 ajakirjaniku läks uurima ja tegema dokumentaalfilmi KAV-i tekkinud eraturvafirmast Wagner
In July 2018, three Russian journalists, Orkhan Dzhemal, Alexander Rastorguyev and Kirill Radchenko set off to the Central African Republic to film a documentary on the alleged presence of a Russian private military company.
After they arrived in the capital, Bangui, they tried unsuccessfully to enter a camp at Berengo, in the southwest, where soldiers were trained by Russian instructors rumoured to be from Wagner, a mercenary outfit said to have connections to the Russian government.
They then moved north where, on July 30, their vehicle was ambushed 25km from Sibut, a town north of Bangui. All three men were killed. Their driver emerged unscathed.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/08/10/mur ... o-unsolved
Умер пропагандист пригожинского РИА ФАН Кирилл Романовский, причастный к убийству российских журналистов в ЦАР
https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1 ... 1859193856
https://theins.ru/news/258321
Died "war correspondent" RIA FAN Kirill Romanovsky. This was announced by the owner of the publication, "Putin's chef" Yevgeny Prigozhin. Previously, Romanovsky claimed that he was diagnosed with brain cancer and that he underwent surgery.
Romanovsky is known for bringing Russian journalists Orkhan Dzhemal, Alexander Rastorguev and Kirill Radchenko to the Central African Republic with a man who lured them into a trap where they were shot. This happened on July 30, 2018 near the city of Sibut, not far from the capital of the Central African Republic - Bangui. Journalists turned to Romanovsky on a tip from pro-Kremlin commentator Abbas Juma. Romanovsky gave journalists the contacts of a local guide (fixer), known as "Martin". This “Martin”, in correspondence with journalists, insisted that he was in the city of Bambari, where communication was poor, and therefore he could not call them, but only correspond via WhatsApp (no one heard his voice). It was "Martin" who organized the car, the driver of which, as it turned out, was in contact with the gendarmerie. And it was on the way to Bambari to meet with "Martin" that the journalists were killed. Both Central African numbers - Martin and Bienvenue Nduvokama - turned out to be registered on false documents, the Dossier Center found out. At the same time, in reality, the connection in Bambari is working properly, and “Martin” himself, judging by the billing, has been in Bangui (the capital of the Central African Republic) all this time and has not left it. Investigators from the Dossier Center came to the conclusion that there was no Martin fixer at all, and this whole story was a pre-planned provocation.
In a conversation with The Insider, Romanovsky insisted that he had nothing to do with the murder of journalists, and that the fixer named "Martin" was indeed a real person and his acquaintance, but he could not explain some inconsistencies. So, for example, why did he enter the number of “Martin” into the database of his telephone contacts only two days after he handed it over to the employees of the “Investigation Management Center”.
In addition, The Insider studied his publicly available search queries for July 2018. Some of them point to a high probability of his involvement in the murder of Dzhemal, Rastorguev and Radchenko. For example, Romanovsky googles “russes a bangui” on July 31 at 12:00, five hours before the first reports of the murder. On the same day, he googles “article 105” (murder), although in a conversation with The Insider he explained this by saying that he was interested in the news about the Khachaturian sisters who killed their father (this was indeed the main topic of the news on July 30 and 31). Judging by the history of the browser, towards the evening of the same day, he rereads his correspondence with Kirill Radchenko, immediately after which he suddenly becomes interested in the question of how to clear the phone's memory. Recall why he suddenly became interested in the issue of deleting information from the phone at that moment Romanovsky could not.
https://theins-ru.translate.goog/news/2 ... x_tr_hl=et
Vanem lugu, milles 3 ajakirjaniku läks uurima ja tegema dokumentaalfilmi KAV-i tekkinud eraturvafirmast Wagner
In July 2018, three Russian journalists, Orkhan Dzhemal, Alexander Rastorguyev and Kirill Radchenko set off to the Central African Republic to film a documentary on the alleged presence of a Russian private military company.
After they arrived in the capital, Bangui, they tried unsuccessfully to enter a camp at Berengo, in the southwest, where soldiers were trained by Russian instructors rumoured to be from Wagner, a mercenary outfit said to have connections to the Russian government.
They then moved north where, on July 30, their vehicle was ambushed 25km from Sibut, a town north of Bangui. All three men were killed. Their driver emerged unscathed.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/08/10/mur ... o-unsolved
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
Live for nothing or die for something.
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Live for nothing or die for something.
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Re: Vagneri bande
Krasnojarskis reklaam Wagnerisse astumiseks, küllap mõne vangla seina pealt...Peab valima vastused kolmele platnoikultuuri keskele küsimusele:
Re: Vagneri bande
Arvatakse, et wagner võib Kesk-Aafrika Vabariigis sel aastal kulla ja väärismetalli kaevandamisega teenida kuni 1 miljard USD.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/1 ... e-00078551
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/1 ... e-00078551
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Õhtulehe noor naisajakirjanik tegi pildil olevad küsimused endale arusaadavamaks:
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1078673/anaalse ... misliinile
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