Medal Sõjalise koostöö tugevdamise eest

[tossom]

Natuke Borjale ka midagi...

Tegemist Nõukogude Liidu ühe kõige haruldasema pealesõjaaegse medaliga. Autasu venekeelne nimetus За укрепление боевого содружества.

Medaliga autasustati vaid Varssavi lepingu maade sõjaväelasi, Kgb-lasi ja sisevägede sõdureid, kellel oli teeneid sõjalise koostöö arendamise eest. Peamiselt said seda medalit vaid kõrgemad sõjaväelased teiste Varssavi lepingu maadega ühiste sõjaväemanöövrite korraldamise puhul.

Ühtedel andmetel on autasustatuid ca 20 000, teistel andmeil aga vaid 2000.

Selline medal ja eriti tema dokument on üliharuldane.

Minu kogus oleva medaliga on autasustatud SDV ( Saksa Demokraatliku Vabariigi ) polkovnik. Perekonanime on dokumendis natuke kratsitud, ilmselt ei tahtnud omanik, et see avalikuks tuleks.

Medalist liigub ka palju võltsinguid, s.t et need medalid mida eesti poodides ja turgudel ( ja mitte ainult eestis ) näha võib ongi kõik koopiad.

Venekeelset infot autasust siin:
http://www.mondvor.narod.ru/MSodruz.html

[TigeSiil]

Et Sul ka siis koopia?

[tossom]

Mul ei ole kombeks koopiaid koguda

[ggdag]

Uuuhh...tõeliselt kena aasi ju !

Õnniteln Sind !

[Tundmatu sõdur nr. 4]

Daa-daa, Tossom... see ikka paar kraadi huvitavam, kui koloosimärgid

Muuseas, haruldane medal on ta kohe kindlasti - omast kogemusest võin väita, et 95%-l NLiidu kaadriohvitseridest polnud halli aimugi sellise autasu eksisteerimisest

[kaur3]

Tõsine rariteet. Putini poolt antud medal Klausile

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was born in 1952 in the city then known as Leningrad, where his father worked in a factory making railway cars. He grew up in a dilapidated fifth-floor walk-up apartment where he recalled rats living in the stairway.

As a boy he dreamed of joining the KGB, he said in the book of interviews, published in 2000. He studied law at Leningrad State University after a KGB agent suggested that was the best route into the service.

He graduated in 1975, and underwent KGB training in Russia. In 1985, the agency sent him to Dresden to recruit spies. Mr. Putin's devotion wasn't to the Soviet system, whose decay he recognized, but to the spy agency as the protector of Russian greatness, recalls Vladimir Usoltsev, who shared a KGB office with him in Dresden in the mid-1980s.

"He always had a poetic touch -- the peculiar pride in belonging to the special corps of defenders of the Motherland, the Chekists," Mr. Usoltsev said in an interview, referring to the Soviet Union's dreaded post-revolutionary secret police.

Klaus Zuchold, a former agent of the East German Stasi secret police, remembers the future president praising Mikhail Gorbachev's efforts to reform the Soviet Union. But Mr. Zuchold says Mr. Putin reserved the highest respect for Yuri Andropov, a former KGB chief. During Mr. Andropov's short tenure as Soviet leader in the early 1980s, he had tried to liberalize the moribund Soviet economy while cracking down on political dissent.

As Mr. Gorbachev's economic restructuring and political openness took hold, the Eastern bloc sank. The Berlin Wall fell in 1989.

In early 1990, as his tour in Dresden drew to a close, Mr. Putin told his agents to step up surveillance of Dresden hotels, which were filling up as Westerners flowed into the country. As East Germany collapsed, Mr. Putin offered KGB jobs to one of his Stasi contacts. Mr. Zuchold says Mr. Putin recruited him as a spy in January 1990, and toasted the recruitment with a bottle of Crimean champagne.

http://www.robertamsterdam.com/2007/12/ ... enigma.htm

[OveT.]

Tõsine rariteet. Putini poolt antud medal Klausile

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was born in 1952 in the city then known as Leningrad, where his father worked in a factory making railway cars. He grew up in a dilapidated fifth-floor walk-up apartment where he recalled rats living in the stairway.

As a boy he dreamed of joining the KGB, he said in the book of interviews, published in 2000. He studied law at Leningrad State University after a KGB agent suggested that was the best route into the service.

He graduated in 1975, and underwent KGB training in Russia. In 1985, the agency sent him to Dresden to recruit spies. Mr. Putin's devotion wasn't to the Soviet system, whose decay he recognized, but to the spy agency as the protector of Russian greatness, recalls Vladimir Usoltsev, who shared a KGB office with him in Dresden in the mid-1980s.

"He always had a poetic touch -- the peculiar pride in belonging to the special corps of defenders of the Motherland, the Chekists," Mr. Usoltsev said in an interview, referring to the Soviet Union's dreaded post-revolutionary secret police.

Klaus Zuchold, a former agent of the East German Stasi secret police, remembers the future president praising Mikhail Gorbachev's efforts to reform the Soviet Union. But Mr. Zuchold says Mr. Putin reserved the highest respect for Yuri Andropov, a former KGB chief. During Mr. Andropov's short tenure as Soviet leader in the early 1980s, he had tried to liberalize the moribund Soviet economy while cracking down on political dissent.

As Mr. Gorbachev's economic restructuring and political openness took hold, the Eastern bloc sank. The Berlin Wall fell in 1989.

In early 1990, as his tour in Dresden drew to a close, Mr. Putin told his agents to step up surveillance of Dresden hotels, which were filling up as Westerners flowed into the country. As East Germany collapsed, Mr. Putin offered KGB jobs to one of his Stasi contacts. Mr. Zuchold says Mr. Putin recruited him as a spy in January 1990, and toasted the recruitment with a bottle of Crimean champagne.

http://www.robertamsterdam.com/2007/12/ ... enigma.htm

Mis seos on Klaus Zucholdil ja ...?.. Klausil?

[tossom]

Ei tea, kui Putin andiski Stas-i agent Klaus Zucholdile mingi medali, siis kindlasti ei olnud tegu selle medaliga, sest peale NSVL kokkukukkumist sellise medaliga Sõjalise koostöö tugevdamise eest enam ei autasustatud. Ta on minu meelest ka praegu Venemaal autasuna olemas, aga medal on hoopis teistsugune.

[OveT.]

Ei tea, ....

Ega siin polegi midagi teada. Küsimus oli retooriline

[tossom]

Ah et selline küsimus siis, retooriline... selge, selge.

[Tundmatu sõdur nr. 4]

Vene dokumentidesse kirjutati perekonnanimi ette (või ülespoole) ja eesnimi ühes isanimega siis taha (või allapoole).

Antud dokumendi puhul on KLAUS ilmselt eesnimi ja üleval on mahakratsitud perekonnanimi. Kuna eurooplastel isanime kirjutamise kommet pole olnud, on arusaadav, et antud dokumendi alumisel real ongi ainult üks nimi - s.t. autasustatu eesnimi (ja pole isanime)

Aga mis nimi seal ülemisel real oli, on rohkem krimide pärusmaa