Liibüa kodusõda alates 2011

[kana tagumik]

http://www.ekspress.ee/news/paevauudise ... d=45577121

Kaare Kaasi demagoogiat oli lausa paha lugeda... ah et Gadaffi väidetavalt planeeris massimõrva ja kui ei oleks takistatud oleks hakatud süüdistama lääneriike?

Sellist lollust selle poolt,kes enda nooremteaduriks julgeb nimetada, küll ei tahaks kuulata.

Araabiamaailmas süüdistatakse läänt niiehknii kõiges, vaevalt see eriti ÜRO julgeolekunõukogus mingi motivatsioon on.

Praegu põletavad ja tapavad mitmel pool( gadaffi ja muud hõimud omavahel) ja ei ole teada, kuidas nimetatud protsessile piir panna.

Senini pole keegi välja tulnud selgitusega, mis oleks ka reaalpoliitiliselt vettpidav.

Gadaffi võib olla küll suur kurat, aga nüüd on lahti lastud palju väikesi kuradeid ja kuidas sellele lõppu peale teha, selgitus puudub. Gadaffi võtab tasapisi niikuinii kõik tagasi.

Avalikult süüdistatakse kõiges Gadaffit, kuigi väikesed kuradid lasid lahti lääneriigid.

[Lemet]

Teatatakse NATO sõjalaeva vigastamisest Liibüa ranniku lähedal. NATO esindajad väidavad teate olevat alusetu

Верные Муаммару Каддафи войска подбили боевой корабль НАТО в Средиземном море в районе Мисураты, расположенной в 200 км к востоку от Триполи.

Как сообщило государственное телевидение Джамахирии, огонь был открыт после того, как судно альянса обстреляло западные районы этого третьего по величине города Ливии, передает ИТАР-ТАСС.

http://www.newsru.com/world/18may2011/destroyer.html

[Kapten Trumm]

Praegu põletavad ja tapavad mitmel pool( gadaffi ja muud hõimud omavahel) ja ei ole teada, kuidas nimetatud protsessile piir panna.

Saab küll piiri panna, kui mingi 300 000 sõdurit sinna korda pidama saata.

Küsimus on, et kes saadab ja milline on Eesti panus.

Ja veelgi suurem küsimus on kelle huvides on selliste sõdade algatamine, millega kogu lääs end sõjaliselt nõrgestab. Sinna sekkumise vajadus toob kaasa "väikese sõja kola" agreeritud nõudluse.

[kaur3]

Brittide logistikast.

12.05.2011

The RAF's No 2 (Mechanical Transport) [MT] Squadron has been busier than normal over recent weeks having been tasked to drive equipment and supplies to Italy for the RAF's operations over Libya.

To date, in support of Operation ELLAMY, 2 MT Squadron personnel, based at RAF Wittering, have travelled the equivalent distance of eight times around the world and transported 1,680 tonnes of kit down to the airfield at Gioia del Colle to support 906 Expeditionary Air Wing.

http://www.defencetalk.com/transporting ... ons-34108/

[kaur3]

Report: France Sends Combat Choppers to Libya

Agence France-Presse

Published: 23 May 2011 08:21

http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=6593776&c=EUR&s=AIR

[kaur3]

Koalitsioonivägede koosseis 18.05 seisuga.

The list below is accurate to the best of the IISS’ ability as of 18 May 2011. The assets are listed by country or organisation. Naval assets are listed with type and pennant number. Aircraft are listed with type and location where possible. Transport aircraft are not included. Not all platforms may be in use at any one time.

http://www.iiss.org/whats-new/iiss-voic ... an-mobile/

[kaur3]

Artikkel sellest, kuidas sõda Liibüas keeras pea peale brittide sõjalise planeerimise.

The first casualty

May 19th 2011

“NO BATTLE plan ever survives first contact with the enemy,” Helmuth von Moltke, a 19th-century head of the Prussian army, famously observed. That is amply true of the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) published by the government last October. Paul Cornish of Chatham House, a think-tank, thinks it might prove “one of the fastest failures in modern British strategic history”.

For example, HMS Cumberland, one of four Type-22 frigates identified for retirement, was on its way home to be decommissioned before it was sent into action, first ferrying British nationals to safety and then helping to enforce the maritime exclusion zone off the coast of Libya. Similarly, the Nimrod R1 reconnaissance aircraft, due to be scrapped in March, has won a stay of execution because it was needed in Libya. The brunt of Britain’s contribution to striking at the Libyan regime’s military infrastructure has been borne by Tornado GR4s. The number of Tornado squadrons is scheduled to be reduced from seven to five next month.

And had the SDSR not decided that Britain could take the risk of going a decade without an aircraft-carrier, the already decommissioned HMS Ark Royal and its Harrier jets would have joined carriers from France, Italy and America off the Libyan coast. Able to respond more quickly than the Tornados that are flying from Italy, the Harriers would have been especially handy for attacking Muammar Qaddafi’s tanks and mobile rocket-launchers. It turns out that much of the “legacy equipment for which there is no requirement”—to quote the SDSR—is still pretty useful.

http://www.economist.com/node/18712682? ... d=18712682

[kaur3]

Attack Helos in Libya Mean Deadly Days Ahead – For Everyone

May 24, 2011

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05 ... -everyone/

[paul]

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/afric ... ef=edition

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has joined American and other European leaders in calling for Moammar Gadhafi to step down from power, a shift that appears to indicate a closing diplomatic window for the longtime Libyan strongman.

Medvedev's call for Gadhafi to step aside came at the end of the Group of Eight summit in Deauville, France, on Friday. The G8 includes the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Japan, Germany, Italy and Russia.

His statement came on the heels of a request from the other G8 leaders to have the Russian leader mediate a settlement.

Mistralite leppe kõrvad paistavad? Hakkas tunduma, et mässajad enam Venemaale naftat ei müü? Jätkub Putini-Medvedjevi hõõrumine?

[kaur3]

Check out this great footage by Al Jazeera of Libyan rebels fighting Gadhafi’s troops. Most significant are the images of what are supposedly armed western troops liasing with the rebels at the 2:10 mark. This may well be the first footage of western “boots on the ground” (sorry to use that clichéd term) at the front lines of the Libyan fight.

http://defensetech.org/2011/05/31/weste ... -in-libya/

[paul]

Check out this great footage by Al Jazeera of Libyan rebels fighting Gadhafi’s troops. Most significant are the images of what are supposedly armed western troops liasing with the rebels at the 2:10 mark. This may well be the first footage of western “boots on the ground” (sorry to use that clichéd term) at the front lines of the Libyan fight.

http://defensetech.org/2011/05/31/weste ... -in-libya/

Ca pool kuud tagasi oli isegi Aktuaalses Kaameras mingi uudislugu, kus taustavideos valge naha ja sirge rühiga sõdalane araablaste demovägitükke kaine pilguga pealt vaatas.

[Ezy]

Leidsin sellise huvitava video ühest teisest foorumist. Nendele maasturitele saab vist kõike peale panna kui ainult viitsimist on. Mis torniga tegemist on? BMP-1'lt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlfl31SJ ... r_embedded

[kaur3]

Esimeses stseeenis on huvitav liinitaktika

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... imed-fire/

[kaur3]

Charlemagne
On target
Robert Gates’s parting shot exposes Europe’s military failings

Jun 16th 2011

Libya reveals an uncomfortable fact about NATO. Its military strength is determined mainly by what America is ready to put in. Without America, the military punch of even the most powerful European members, Britain and France, is limited. What is more, as Mr Gates also said, Europeans should not take America’s commitment for granted. He is among the last American cold warriors to hold office; a new generation of leaders may not share his attachment to the alliance, and may even come to see it as a burden. Unless Europe does more, NATO faces “collective military irrelevance” and a “dim and dismal future”.

Countries want neither to depend on others nor to be dragged into somebody else’s war. Some have defence industries to prop up. But Denmark has given up submarines, letting it play a bigger role in Afghanistan and Libya. Several countries share C-17 transport aircraft. Last year’s Franco-British defence pact points the way: the two countries will co-operate in, among other things, nuclear tests, aircraft-carrier operations and a joint expeditionary force, as well as unglamorous but vital support tasks. The lesson is clear: pool it or lose it.

http://www.economist.com/node/18836734? ... d=18836734

[kaur3]

French Confirm Arms Drops to Libyan Rebels
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Published: 29 Jun 2011

According to Le Figaro, the French arms shipments are dropped from planes across the Djebel Nafusa region, where Berber tribes have risen to join the revolt against Ghadafi's rule and seized several provincial towns.

The crates hold assault rifles, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, it said, and also European-made Milan anti-tank missiles, a powerful addition to the rebel arsenal that can destroy a tank or a bunker.

http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=6951680&c=EUR&s=TOP