NATO artikkel 5

[HeiniR]

Mulle on ka selle naisterahva ütlemised jätnud väga positiivse mulje. Ja kui SB võtab oma kohustusi tõsiselt ja sekkub, ega siis Trump saa seda pealt vaatama jääda.

[Kriku]

Täispikkuses kõne on näiteks siin.

Trust but verify ei kõla pooltki nii hästi kui Feliks Edmundovitši esituses "doverjai no proverjai". Wikipedias on see arvel "vene vanasõnana"; ma loodan, et Reagan ja May ikka teadsid ja teavad, kes selle siinkandis kuulsaks tegi.

[Kriku]

Marko Mihkelson:

Nii McCain kui ka kõik tema kolleegid senatis, kellega olen kohtunud, on üheselt väljendanud tugevat toetust NATO liitlastele. Samas on liitlassuhete tugevdamise alus USA poolt vaadates Euroopa partnerite panuse suurendamine. See pole sugugi üksnes Trumpi, vaid Kongressi enamuse kindel seisukoht. Euroopa peab hakkama rohkem panustama ühiskaitsesse.

Minu rõhutus.

[nimetu]

No tegelikult oli selline seisukoht ka Obamal. Ta lihtsalt väljendas seda oluliselt pehmemalt.

[Kriku]

Just täpselt. Trump on rasvaste pealkirjade jaoks kõvasti materjali andnud, aga mis ta tegelikult uut on öelnud? Mida veel peale säutsu senise "ühe Hiina poliitika" teemal?

[kaugeltuuriv]

Oskagi õelda,kas see siia teemasse aga pole nagu enne nii täpselt seda NATO meile suunatava üksuse tehnikapoolt vaadanud.Minu meelest seni on räägitud vaid brittide tankidest.Kas ka prantslased võtavad raua kaasa?Igatahes usakad vist algselt pidid Poola ja Leedu raskema rauaga täitma,olen ma valesti aru saanud?
Igatahes,ma ei tea,kas see on seotud selle ägeneva kriisiga Avdeejevka all Ukrainas ja Moskva raskema raua võimalike liigutustega aga siin väidetakse,et USA viib kiirkorras ka raskemat rauda Lätti ja Eestisse lisaks ja see jääb siia vähemalt kuni kevadeni?
https://inforesist.org/ssha-perebrosyat ... yi-baltii/

[Some]

Oskagi õelda,kas see siia teemasse aga pole nagu enne nii täpselt seda NATO meile suunatava üksuse tehnikapoolt vaadanud.Minu meelest seni on räägitud vaid brittide tankidest.Kas ka prantslased võtavad raua kaasa?Igatahes usakad vist algselt pidid Poola ja Leedu raskema rauaga täitma,olen ma valesti aru saanud?
Igatahes,ma ei tea,kas see on seotud selle ägeneva kriisiga Avdeejevka all Ukrainas ja Moskva raskema raua võimalike liigutustega aga siin väidetakse,et USA viib kiirkorras ka raskemat rauda Lätti ja Eestisse lisaks ja see jääb siia vähemalt kuni kevadeni?
https://inforesist.org/ssha-perebrosyat ... yi-baltii/

Originaaluudis ilmus WJS, kahjuks ise ei saa lugeda:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-army-d ... 1485203221

[HeiniR]

Varasemalt on ikka läbi käinud, et prantslased tulevad samuti nii tankide kui suurtükkidega, allikat ei viitsi enam otsida.
Sakslased peaksid samuti tulema koos Leo2-dega. Kanada kohta ei tea, aga ilmselt nemadki oma raskema rauaga kohal.
Eks USA tehnikat saadetakse lisaks.

[Chupacabra]

Originaaluudis ilmus WJS, kahjuks ise ei saa lugeda:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-army-d ... 1485203221

Pidasid vist ikka seda silmas:

U.S. to Deploy Tanks to the Baltics
Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania are to receive the tanks, a signal that Washington remains committed to their defense

The U.S. Army will send tanks this week to countries on Russia’s frontiers in the largest such deployment since the Cold War, a step aimed at reassuring America’s European allies that Washington remains committed to their defense.

After joint U.S.-Polish exercises in northern Poland on Monday, some of the M1A2 Abrams main battle tanks used in the drills will be transported to the Baltic states of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, where they will remain until a new North Atlantic Treaty Organization deterrent force is operational in the spring.

In recent days, allies have pointed to the deployment of American troops and military hardware in Eastern Europe as a sign the U.S. remains committed to NATO and that the alliance will carry out its policy of building a force to thwart any Russian military action in the region.

“The physical presence of NATO is here with us today,” Polish President Andrzej Duda said on Monday at a ceremony in Zagan, Poland, with the U.S. Army’s 3rd Armored Combat Brigade Team of the 4th Infantry Division.

The exercises were planned before Donald Trump was elected U.S. president in November. Since then, allied officials have privately expressed worries about the administration’s policy toward NATO and whether the White House will curtail the deployment.

The dispatching of U.S. troops and armor to Europe shows the allies are implementing their decision to create a small force to better detect any Russian moves in the Baltics and to show Moscow that the alliance’s major powers stand behind its eastern members, said Adam Thomson, a former U.K. ambassador to NATO and the head of the European Leadership Network, a think tank.

“This represents a valuable down payment on the tripwire and [the] limited combat capability that NATO defense ministers agreed was needed all the way back in February of last year,” Mr. Thomson said.

But the allies remain concerned, he said, that Mr. Trump and his advisers have sent mixed messages on NATO, on the one hand expressing their full support for the alliance and on the other, describing it as outmoded.

“It is a new experience for NATO to be described as obsolete,” Mr. Thomson said. Mr. Trump “clearly has issues with the alliance.”

At the ceremony in Poland, Col. Christopher Norrie, the 3rd Brigade’s commander, said his unit’s deployment to Europe was a “visible and credible expression of our nation’s commitment to our allies.”

The unit, known as the Iron Brigade, is “fully ready to take action if needed to preserve our shared interest in security and peace in this vital part of the world,” Col. Norrie said.

Based in Fort Carson, Colo., the 3rd Brigade arrived in Bremerhaven, Germany, in early January with about 3,500 soldiers, 144 Bradley fighting vehicles, 87 tanks and 18 Paladin artillery systems.


The brigade will be stationed in Europe, with a headquarters in Poland, for the next nine months, after which it is to be replaced by another unit. During its deployment, elements of the brigade will also be sent to Hungary, Poland, Germany and Romania.

The U.S. has also boosted its European presence by building up stocks of equipment, increasing the number of helicopters and deploying 900 additional combat-support soldiers.

Aivars Ozoliņš, an international-affairs commentator in the Latvian capital Riga said Latvian defense and diplomatic officials have “a great deal of anxiety mixed with some cautious hope” over the new American administration.

“Everybody points to the fact that there are binding treaties, that assurances have been given that all will go on as hitherto, that the U.S. troops continue their rotations,” he said.

To damp that anxiety, U.S. officers went out of their way on Monday to reinforce the message that the U.S. commitment to NATO wasn’t wavering, citing expressions of support for Europe by the new U.S. secretary of defense, Jim Mattis.

“Know that our commitment to defense is rock-solid and [that] we must maintain the territorial integrity of our alliance and maintain a Europe that is whole, free, prosperous and at peace,” said Lt. Gen. Tim Ray, the deputy head of U.S. European Command.

[PaganHorde]

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nato-shows ... 6046531674
NATO Shows Firepower in Poland as U.S. Allies Worry About Russia

[Drax]

Corbyn tegeleb sellega, millega ikka. Kui küsiti, kas ta saadaks UK väed Eestile appi, tuli vastuseks bla-bla.

Mulle on ka selle naisterahva (Theresa May) ütlemised jätnud väga positiivse mulje. Ja kui SB võtab oma kohustusi tõsiselt ja sekkub, ega siis Trump saa seda pealt vaatama jääda.

Äsjane stiilinäide Briti parlamendist. Corbyn vs. May. Vaadake kindlasti lõpuni, poolteist minutit, puänt on puhas nauding. Munad paiknevad ikka väga kindlalt peaministri toolil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uBettl8AWQ


Hear! Hear!

Kriku

[PaganHorde]

http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/8856b99f- ... s-eestisse

4 tanki saabus, RT pani see kõvasti käratsema.

[ruger]

NATO ja sellesse panustamine riikide kaupa. Briti peaminister kutsub NATO riike lõpetama teiste seljas elamine ja hakkama panustama prganisatsiooni tuleviku. Kokkuvõte UK PM May kõnest.

Sovereign countries cannot outsource their security and prosperity to America. And they should not undermine the alliances that keep us strong by failing to step up and play their part.

[Martin Peeter]

Head pildid. USA relvastatud sõdurid Ivangorodi taustal. Ajab kindlasti mõnel s... keema

http://www.postimees.ee/4009825/galerii ... urid-narva

[kallek]

Selline ärplemine ei maksa suurt midagi.