Re: Sõjaline abi Ukrainale
Postitatud: 13 Veebr, 2024 14:34
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https://twitter.com/minna_alander/statu ... 6179909715Norwegian-Finnish ammunition producer Nammo has activated 5-shift production at its facility in Sweden, meaning 24/7 production of 155mm ammunition. Also French-owned Eurenco is doing the same in Karlskoga. A main reason: supporting Ukraine.
If Russia does turn up the pressure on NATO’s Eastern flank—or worse attempts a low-intensity military operation—are you really willing to bet your future on the United States right now? Are we giving the impression of a credible partner that’s going to back your territorial integrity?
How about if you’re William Lai’s national security advisor? Are you going to have to explain to him the Americans are too busy arguing over Hunter Biden’s laptop to offer assistance during an attempted act of PLA military coercion?
Who wants to bet on the United States as a guarantor of their security right now when the GOP is single-mindedly focused on winning soundbites? It’s not even that we’re having principled arguments over American foreign policy.
This isn’t some well-thought-out and serious discussion about the extent of American power and competing priorities. The United States could very easily provide the material and assistance to stand up fully mechanized Ukrainian brigades such that they could qualitatively outfight the Russians across the frontline. Our defense industrial base could more than sufficiently provide the munitions to allow the UAF to conduct continuous fires into the Russian depths. We are more than capable enough to provide the capacity to train the Ukrainian forces to be able to conduct brigade-level maneuvers.
We aren’t sacrificing our force posture in the Pacific for this—unless for some reason we were planning to put IFVs onto rafts and sail them into the Taiwan Strait. We aren’t critically short of munitions—we are in fact creating more production capacity. The United States also isn’t fighting some other conventional war that we desperately need to conserve our resources for. We aren’t looking at any actual tradeoffs that would justify pulling back American support.
Imagine explaining to Winston Churchill that no we cannot provide any more Lend-Lease since Wendell Willkie has instructed Congress to stop all attempts to pass legislation to help his election odds.
It’s like looking at a nightmare version of a timeline where Charles Lindbergh managed to not only persuade the House Committee on Foreign Affairs to completely block Lend-Lease but was greeted as an American hero for meeting with the Nazis. Except in this case, Charles Lindbergh is a former Fox News host who also films rambling interviews with autocrats who justify their invasions based on letters from 882.
Not to mention, this is a timeline where the GOP then goes on to fawn about how smart and articulate Hitler is. It’s all just so fucking pathetic. At least in the 1940s we had the foresight to break up the German-American Bund. FDR was willing to crack down on people who actively worked to further the ideologies and foreign policy goals of our adversaries.
Now imagine all of this as a Londoner during the Blitz. You and your neighbors are being bombed daily as your city is slowly being turned to rubble. The RAF is only just barely able to hold things together. You’re overstretched around the globe, and the news from Africa isn’t great. Your PM says that you’re going to fight on until the end, come what may.
You look over at the Americans as the great hope on the horizon and all you see is a bunch of complete morons who think that London is a secret bioweapons laboratory. Also, apparently, the Americans are now claiming that Churchill has been embezzling all your money to build mansions in Egypt. You quickly realize that you’re doomed.
Things just cannot keep going on like this. A representative democracy cannot do this forever, and years of gridlock and disarray are going to catch up to us. The United States has boundless material advantages that we can draw upon, but the endless pandering and demagoguery are going to have an effect eventually. But when is the fever going to break? At this point, the entire world can go up in flames so long as the liberals lose.
Ei peagi mäletama!
Jah, varustuse hinda arvestatakse just nii nagu kirjeldasid ehk, et mis maksab selle uuemaga asendamine.Põldur kirjutas: ↑14 Veebr, 2024 14:44 Ma võibolla pole sellest USA abi süsteemist õieti aru saanud, aga kas nad mitte ka ei arvesta ikkagi igale antavale asjale hinna juurde. Taasteväärtuse? Ehk siis kui eraldatakse näiteks 60 miljardit, siis saabki ainult teatud koguse asju selle eest saata ja taastoota. Kui saata lennukeid, siis saab see summa ruttu täis.Kõik hakkab pihta eraldatavast rahast.
Need varud, mis neil on ja mida ei kasutata, need on ilmselt siiski ka remonti vajavad, hooldus jne. Ei ole päris nii, et võtad sealt ja saadad. Jällegi kõik see vajab raha. Praegu pole nad juba kuid midagi suutnud eraldada.
Usa-l on kindlasti sõjalistes plaanides ka ette nähtud need varud, et kaotusi kompenseerida või liitlastele jagada. Olgu see Põhja-Koreaga konflikt või Hiinaga või kellegi kolmandaga. Või , et konflikti alguses oma relvajõudusid suurendada. Me ei tea, palju midagi varuks peab olema . Me siin mõtleme ainult Ukrainast aga nemad peavad muudele potensiaalsetele konfliktidele ka mõtlema.
Keegi teab ehk täpsemalt, kuidas selle sõjalise abi väärtuse ja saadetava asendamisega on.